John Von Essen on 4 Dec 2018 08:23:13 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] Open Source Alternative to OnApp


Cool, so ProxMox does support SDS, then? I was going through their online FAQs and Docs and couldnt quite determine that.

Does Apache CloudStack offer SDS?

-John

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 4:09 PM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
> 
> On 12/2/18 9:17 AM, John Von Essen wrote:
>> So I recently demo’d OnApp for full suite cloud services mgmt (i.e. end user GUI for building/booting/rebooting/console/etc), in particular I was interested in the software designed storage (SDS) aspect where you build a distributed SAN across your compute nodes, so each compute node has a decent number of SSDs, and a dedicated 10G NIC for storage.
>> The product is very nice, but its prohibitively expensive, the per core licensing makes it impossible to really make any money from it at an ISP/MSP level especially if you are trying to price your VMs competitively.
>> I know there are open source alternatives that give you the end user GUI features, but do any of them offer the software defined storage capability?
>> If I cant find that, the alternative is to just go back to the normal model of a separate iSCSI SAN (built on commodity hardware). Technically at large enough scale and proper planning this model might be on-par with the SDS model, though the SDS gets you more redundancy and maybe more IOPS. But the SDS is much better for a small build out of the gate.
> 
> That sounds a lot like my "Virtualization clusters & shared storage" thread from 2018-08, starting http://lists.netisland.net/archives/plug/plug-2018-08/msg00049.html.
> 
> The "shared SAN" SDS concept is part of HCI (HyperConverged Infrastructure).
> 
> In particular, Proxmox does all that.
> 
> Later,
> JP
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