John Von Essen on 7 Dec 2018 14:34:38 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] How to Store Video Files for 25 Years?


Google “Gold DVD-R” they still make them, like $20 for a 5-pack, they will last 100 years in normal/average conditions. Designed for archival.

Burn video as data/mp4

John

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> On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:42 PM, brent timothy saner <brent.saner@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/7/18 12:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:31 PM Michael Lazin <microlaser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was skeptical of the practicality of your suggestion Brent so I tested it.  I turned a picture of me in Heidelberg Germany into base64 at the command line and did a line count with wc -l and was surprised that it was only 296 lines of base64 code.
>> 
>> Base64 is 6-bit encoding (as suggested by the name), so it takes up
>> 25% more space than the original file.
>> 
> (SNIP)
> 
> hence my recommendation to first XZ it, which compresses most mixed
> media data down to about 10-50% of the original size on average, yes.
> 
> let's use
> http://hubblesource.stsci.edu/sources/video/clips/details/images/centaur_2.mpg
> as an example file.
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> [bts@cylon poc]$ ls -l centaur_2.mpg
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 10727428 Jul  9  2003 centaur_2.mpg
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 centaur_2.mpg > centaur_2.mpg.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 -w0 centaur_2.mpg > centaur_2.mpg.1line.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ time xz -c -9e centaur_2.mpg > centaur_2.mpg.xz
> 
> real    0m2.819s
> user    0m2.702s
> sys    0m0.107s
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> takes a bit of time, but you get quite decent compression rates that
> definitely will help ease the base64 overhead:
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> [bts@cylon poc]$ ls -l
> total 65544
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 10727428 Jul  9  2003 centaur_2.mpg
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 14303240 Dec  7 13:15 centaur_2.mpg.1line.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 14491441 Dec  7 13:15 centaur_2.mpg.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts  9088848 Dec  7 13:15 centaur_2.mpg.xz
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> lrzip can be used for *slightly* better compression rates and an
> incredible performance increase:
> 
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> [bts@cylon poc]$ time lrzip -o - centaur_2.mpg > centaur_2.mpg.lrz
> centaur_2.mpg - Compression Ratio: inf. Average Compression Speed:
> 5.000MB/s.
> Total time: 00:00:01.77
> 
> real    0m1.788s
> user    0m2.445s
> sys    0m0.197s
> [bts@cylon poc]$ ls -l *lrz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 9082074 Dec  7 13:19 centaur_2.mpg.lrz
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> lrzip's ZPAQ mode, while more time-consuming, affords even greater space
> savings:
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> [bts@cylon poc]$ time lrzip -o - -z centaur_2.mpg > centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz
> centaur_2.mpg - Compression Ratio: inf. Average Compression Speed:
> 0.909MB/s.
> Total time: 00:00:10.88
> 
> real    0m10.884s
> user    0m10.728s
> sys    0m0.279s
> [bts@cylon poc]$ ls -l *lrz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 9082074 Dec  7 13:19 centaur_2.mpg.lrz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 8709175 Dec  7 13:23 centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> but there's definitely a finite ROI.
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 centaur_2.mpg.lrz > centaur_2.mpg.lrz.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 -w0 centaur_2.mpg.lrz > centaur_2.mpg.lrz.1line.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz > centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ base64 -w0 centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz >
> centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz.1line.b64
> [bts@cylon poc]$ ls -l *.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 14303240 Dec  7 13:26 centaur_2.mpg.1line.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 14491441 Dec  7 13:26 centaur_2.mpg.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 12109432 Dec  7 13:29 centaur_2.mpg.lrz.1line.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 12268767 Dec  7 13:28 centaur_2.mpg.lrz.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 11612236 Dec  7 13:29 centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz.1line.b64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 bts bts 11765029 Dec  7 13:29 centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz.b64
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> as shown, the lowest amount of bytes is
> centaur_2.mpg.zpaq.lrz.1line.b64, which - keep in mind this is base64'd
> - is only 108% the size as the original file (10727428 bytes). (the
> uncompressed base64 with no linebreaks is 133%). i'd say those are
> pretty significant savings if it's something important to you (and time
> isn't).
> 
> however, there is some criticism of the viability of XZ in
> particular[0], and if that's a concern you're banking legal liability on
> you'd want to use something else[1].
> 
> but i'd suspect it should be fine as long as the paper itself is kept in
> preserved format (acid-free, dark, etc.) and the conversion process back
> into data was tested.
> 
> using the above "best-case" scenario, and my standard of my previous
> email (FreeMono, standard libreoffice margins and kerning, 8pt - or, in
> other words, 8652 chars/page face), you're looking at 1343 printed page
> faces. hope you have a duplexer. i never proposed using base64 was
> ideal, by any means (or even using paper media for data archival in
> general), just *possible*. :P
> 
> 
> 
> [0] https://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html
> [1] https://suchanek.name/texts/archiving/index.html#TOC19
>    https://suchanek.name/texts/archiving/index.html#TOC23
> 
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