| Keith C. Perry on 8 Feb 2019 11:30:16 -0800 |
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| Re: [PLUG] Can learning ham radio make for better engineers and software developers? |
Jeff, "...I figured out the separation was probably a good thing. The Code Boys' eyes glossed over when computers were open. Everybody else's eyes glazed over when they saw code. I believe we're wired, to an extent, for certain jobs..." That's where things I think we went "wrong". Whether you are wired or not for a task doesn't mean you can do the task or at least be most efficient at the task. While the distance between knowledge and understand is a function or time and personal effort, there are just things people are not going to be effective at in a resonable amount of time for any number of reasons. Just like everyone who wants to play a particular sport won't be able to, we have to accept that is true for other things. Personal anecdote... I was an electrical/computer student because not only did I enjoy that more thatn say mechanical things, I also put the time in to learn things on my own- engineering studies, if nothing else teach you how to teach yourself. That said, while just about every ME class I had to take drove me nutty, I was much better in classes where I was working with my hands and "doing" or applying knowledge... Robotics... loved it, Controls... like it, Dynamics and Statics... please save me from this hell. LOL Could I have been a mechnical engineer? maybe... but it would have been a harder path for me and I don't think I would have been as good at that as I am at being in an electrical discipline. The point however, was that having mechanical courses did make make a more well rounding engineer if nothing else. It also taught me the value to learning things that are corollary to what you enjoy or do professionally. For what we are talking about here, hardware and software is more intradisciplanary than it is interdisciplanary. I'm don't expect software folks to be great at hardware but I do, or I at least I used to expect them to know enough to be efficient programmers. Think of space exploration and what we've been able to achieve. Those programmers understand way more than their tasking even if though they were silo'd to a particular part of a mission. Another way to look at it is, why separate yourself from gaining knowledge that will make you better at your profession? Another way #2... when I'm interviewing someone for an opportunity, I always ask then about their hobbies or what else they are doing in life. People who convey they are life long learners and have varied interests, in my experience, are infinitely better problem solvers and get-it-done folks than those who are not. I totally agree, all knowledge is good... ...and Arduino are great ! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 (M) +1.215.432.5167 www.daotechnologies.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff" <jeffv@op.net> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 1:33:08 PM Subject: Re: [PLUG] Can learning ham radio make for better engineers and software developers? All knowledge is good. Arduino would be great because hardware+software. Higher class ham licenses for electronics and Mysterious Antenna Math and radio waves. On 2/8/19 1:01 PM, Keith C. Perry wrote: > In recent years, I've talked to so called technology professionals from > traditional IT to voice to data scientists who have never seen the > inside of a computer much less built a computer or even done any manner > of basic electronics. I used to be the hardware/network guy for a bunch of programmers. Your idea is truly a good one, but I'm not sure how or if these guys would go for it. After a while, I figured out the separation was probably a good thing. The Code Boys' eyes glossed over when computers were open. Everybody else's eyes glazed over when they saw code. I believe we're wired, to an extent, for certain jobs. Is it an accident that so many marketing people were cheerleaders in school? If the person were interested, it would be a great learning exercise and make them more understanding and valuable, imo. Plus the social aspect.... In the last 5 years I've seen a resurrgence in > the interest in amatuer radio for lots of difference reasons. The thing That's great - it wasn't looking good for a while. > This finding by the Navy's Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division > (NAWCWD) that just the technician's class license can help address the by the same token, morse code (CW) transmission is helpful in the military because it's more likely to get through when signal is poor. > > https://www.c4isrnet.com/electronic-warfare/2019/02/06/can-learning-ham-radio-make-for-better-engineers-and-software-developers/ Looking forward, thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug