Re: [PLUG] Can learning ham radio make for better engineers and software developers?

[Jim Fisher <jedijf@myfisher.org>]

++ everything in this list

Amateur Radio obviously.

All learning is good.

Amateur Radio just provides a hobby place to explore the *all*, for a lifetime.

http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-board-gives-the-go-ahead-to-lifelong-learning-initiative

On 2/8/19, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> "...I figured out the separation was
> probably a good thing. The Code Boys' eyes glossed over when computers
> were open. Everybody else's eyes glazed over when they saw code. I
> believe we're wired, to an extent, for certain jobs..."
>
> That's where things I think we went "wrong".  Whether you are wired or not
> for a task doesn't mean you can do the task or at least be most efficient at
> the task.  While the distance between knowledge and understand is a function
> or time and personal effort, there are just things people are not going to
> be effective at in a resonable amount of time for any number of reasons.
> Just like everyone who wants to play a particular sport won't be able to, we
> have to accept that is true for other things.
>
> Personal anecdote... I was an electrical/computer student because not only
> did I enjoy that more thatn say mechanical things, I also put the time in to
> learn things on my own- engineering studies, if nothing else teach you how
> to teach yourself.  That said, while just about every ME class I had to take
> drove me nutty, I was much better in classes where I was working with my
> hands and "doing" or applying knowledge... Robotics... loved it, Controls...
> like it, Dynamics and Statics... please save me from this hell.  LOL
>
> Could I have been a mechnical engineer? maybe... but it would have been a
> harder path for me and I don't think I would have been as good at that as I
> am at being in an electrical discipline.  The point however, was that having
> mechanical courses did make make a more well rounding engineer if nothing
> else.  It also taught me the value to learning things that are corollary to
> what you enjoy or do professionally.
>
> For what we are talking about here, hardware and software is more
> intradisciplanary than it is interdisciplanary.  I'm don't expect software
> folks to be great at hardware but I do, or I at least I used to expect them
> to know enough to be efficient programmers.  Think of space exploration and
> what we've been able to achieve.  Those programmers understand way more than
> their tasking even if though they were silo'd to a particular part of a
> mission.
>
> Another way to look at it is, why separate yourself from gaining knowledge
> that will make you better at your profession?
>
> Another way #2... when I'm interviewing someone for an opportunity, I always
> ask then about their hobbies or what else they are doing in life.  People
> who convey they are life long learners and have varied interests, in my
> experience, are infinitely better problem solvers and get-it-done folks than
> those who are not.
>
> I totally agree, all knowledge is good...
>
> ...and Arduino are great !
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jeff" <jeffv@op.net>
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> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 1:33:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Can learning ham radio make for better engineers and
> software developers?
>
> All knowledge is good.
> Arduino would be great because hardware+software.
> Higher class ham licenses for electronics and Mysterious Antenna Math
> and radio waves.
>
>
> On 2/8/19 1:01 PM, Keith C. Perry wrote:
>
>> In recent years, I've talked to so called technology professionals from
>> traditional IT to voice to data scientists who have never seen the
>> inside of a computer much less built a computer or even done any manner
>> of basic electronics.
>
> I used to be the hardware/network guy for a bunch of programmers.
> Your idea is truly a good one, but I'm not sure how or if these guys
> would go for it. After a while, I figured out the separation was
> probably a good thing. The Code Boys' eyes glossed over when computers
> were open. Everybody else's eyes glazed over when they saw code. I
> believe we're wired, to an extent, for certain jobs. Is it an accident
> that so many marketing people were cheerleaders in school?
>
> If the person were interested, it would be a great learning exercise and
> make them more understanding and valuable, imo. Plus the social aspect....
>
>
>
>
>
>    In the last 5 years I've seen a resurrgence in
>> the interest in amatuer radio for lots of difference reasons.  The thing
>
> That's great - it wasn't looking good for a while.
>
>
>> This finding by the Navy's Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division
>> (NAWCWD) that just the technician's class license can help address the
>
> by the same token, morse code (CW) transmission is helpful in the
> military because it's more likely to get through when signal is poor.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> https://www.c4isrnet.com/electronic-warfare/2019/02/06/can-learning-ham-radio-make-for-better-engineers-and-software-developers/
>
>
> Looking forward, thanks.
>
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