Keith C. Perry via plug on 29 Jan 2020 08:52:42 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] Ubiquiti data slurping


JP,

The updates come via the console not directly to the devices and I don't allow update to process automatically so that's an easy situation to control.

There was supposed to be a 100% opt out but it looks like Ubiquiti reversed that which is why the pitchforks are rightfully out. To be clear, I don't like this and it is a huge mistake on their part (they may yet have privacy challenges across the pond as a result) but this is one of those things that I'm not going to allow myself to lose sleep over...

...that's what my Windows 10 users are for :D


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----- Original Message -----
From: "JP Vossen via plug" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 11:45:07 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Ubiquiti data slurping

Keith, how do you block the telemetry without blocking updates?

And I thought there was an opt-out option someplace?  (Goes and reads 
TFA...)  Oh, OK.  Hmmm, that is quite annoying.  It'll be interesting to 
see if Troy Hunt chimes in on this one, he's had some great things to 
say about them in the past so I wonder if this changes that.  Or if more 
mobs and pitchforks will change the policy.


On 1/29/20 11:12 AM, Keith C. Perry via plug wrote:
> I think I heard this before but I've drank the kool-aid on this one.  
> Ubiquiti has been far too much of a win for me personally and for business.
> 
> I can always block it at the firewall if they start behaving badly but 
> this one doesn't bother me functionally speaking if they actually use 
> the data for good.  It is a risk but I'm going to watch their behavior.
> 
> 
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> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> (M) +1.215.432.5167
> www.daotechnologies.com <http://www.daotechnologies.com/>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Anthony Martin via plug" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> *To: *"jeff" <jeffv@op.net>
> *Cc: *"Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" 
> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:12:20 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [PLUG] Ubiquiti data slurping
> 
> With how easy their management software has made it for me to manage my 
> home network and the network for my son's school, I am fine with them 
> getting performance data.
> 
> Anthony Martin
> Linux System Administrator
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM jeff via plug 
> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org <mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Ubiquiti users: please read
> 
> 
>     https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/29/ubiquiti_data_collection_policy/
> 
>     You spoke, we didn't listen: Ubiquiti says UniFi routers will beam
>     performance data back to mothership automatically
>     And good luck opting out of that one
Later,
JP
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