| brent timothy saner via plug on 22 Dec 2021 01:17:12 -0800 |
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On 12/20/21 16:57, Martin Cracauer via plug wrote: > H Mottaleb via plug wrote on Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 05:27:25PM -0500: > Rant: > > Also, systemd sucks. It should never hang without diagnostics like > that. And in FreeBSD you could press control-C to proceed with the > next item in boot order. Or Control-\ to also get a core dump from > the hand-producing entity. I never understood why Linux (systemd or > not) doesn't implement this. Now that systemd is the default > undebuggable hangs are the new normal. > In all fairness you brought this on yourself, but this is definitely a "tell me you don't know anything about systemd without saying you don't know anything about systemd" sort of thing. I get it, you don't have to like systemd. A lot of people don't just because it's different. That's fine. But there's a difference between that and just flat-out making completely false assertions to further an agenda. FUD has no place here. > proceed with the next item in boot order systemd boots items in parallel (according to dependencies), but this can be disabled and via the exact behavior you describe with a kernel param. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html#systemd.confirm_spawn > to get a core dump Yep, does that too, automatically. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html#systemd.dump_core But if you want to manually generate a core dump, sure- you can do that too with gdb. Can't even get to a shell? `init=/bin/bash` still works just fine. There is, of course, also things like `systemd.unit=emergency.target` (or `systemd.unit=rescye.target`), systemd.debug_shell, etc. etc. > undebuggable lol.Debugging is usually enabled by default, according to distro, and has an extensive amount of information. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html#systemd.log_color https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html#debug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug