Andrew White on Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:30:50 -0400 (EDT)


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Re: [PLUG] meeting at the Pennsylvania Convention Center


Hi all,

Regarding concerns about the Convention Center being a union shop,
I can confirm that Bill Magill is correct that there are unions
that work at the Center, and that some work must be done by union
workers.  For instance, any electrical work, work requiring wiring
to be run through walls or under carpet, or moving more than a
certain number of boxes must be done by union labor.

However, setting up a couple PCs, or carrying signs, or anything
PLUG's likely to need does not require union labor.

-Andrew




On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, William H. Magill wrote:

> >   I would not be concerned about hidden charges.  We have worked
> >   with PCCA for years, and they are truly offering this meeting
> >   space at no cost to PLUG.  It's a nice space with plenty of
> >   tables and chairs.
> >
> >   I am working on finding out what, if any, computer displays
> >   may be available.  DCANet will be able to provide an SDSL-based
> >   T1 circuit with 8 ethernet ports in the Cafe as well -- at
> >   no charge to PLUG.
> >
> It's a wonderful space...
> 
> The only caveat about the PCC is --  it's a Union Shop!
> 
> This can mean problems=costs if you need to move equipment around on-site
> or bring equipment in, like a projector or computers. The work has to be
> done by Union members. (Historically, it was not "legal" for non-union
> people to even plug in AC power for things!) Computers and Computer network
> wiring used to be ignored by the Building Trades Council -- but not anymore.
> There were also "closed contracts" for things like AV services -- so if you
> want a projector, you could not bring your own. (Like the Coke and Sony
> deals at the Olympics.)
> 
> The Convention Center folks know these are real problems, so find out from
> them what kinds of issues exist here for us. Things were liberalized some
> what as a result of the Republican Convention negotiations, but I wouldn't
> count on that holding now that the Republicans are out of town. I haven't
> been involved with planning an event there since shortly after the new
> building opened ?5 years ago?, but it was pretty ugly back then.
> 
> With luck, they may even have a special dispensation for "club meeting
> space" as opposed to "convention function space.
> 
> 


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