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You can find more information about GBC by visiting http://www.gbcGLOBAL.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: <plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org> To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: PLUG digest, Vol 1 #823 - 14 msgs > > Send PLUG mailing list submissions to > plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-request@lists.phillylinux.org > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of PLUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: New Member (Clinton Roane) > 2. Unix vs Dos for Virus Content (Bevilacqua, Michael) > 3. Re: New Member (Michael Leone) > 4. Re: Unix vs Dos for Virus Content (Michael Leone) > 5. Re: Unix vs Dos for Virus Content (MaD dUCK) > 6. Re: Unix vs Dos for Virus Content (Michael Leone) > 7. Re: LinuxWorld Expo (Rupert Heesom) > 8. [OT] Respect (was: Re: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content) (Bill Jonas) > 9. Re: LinuxWorld Expo (Bill Jonas) > 10. Re: LinuxWorld Expo (Michael Leone) > 11. Re: IBM laptop and serial port troubles (LeRoy Cressy) > 12. Re: IBM laptop and serial port troubles (Daniel G Roberts) > 13. Re: IBM laptop and serial port troubles (LeRoy Cressy) > 14. port listening question (Jeff Abrahamson) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Clinton Roane" <clinton.roane@worldnet.att.net> > To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: RE: [PLUG] New Member > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:14:53 -0500 > charset="us-ascii" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > Actually I have to Linux systems, one desktop with Redhat 7.0 (no winmodem > attached) and the laptop using a card modem that is not a winmodem either. > I will write down the responses I get an post them, thanks for the reply > > Clint > > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org > [mailto:plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org]On Behalf Of M . Jackson > Wilkinson > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:55 AM > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] New Member > > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 06:48:40AM -0500, Clinton Roane wrote: > > 2.) I have a laptop running SuSE 6.1 but am having problems with > connecting > > and PPP. I am willing to bring the laptop to one of the next meetings > (that > > I can attend). > > > first question: is it a winmodem? If yes, you can't much use it (check out > search results for linmodems and see if your type is supported)... if no, > what kind is it? What are you trying to use to connect, and is there any > feedback that you get in logs or anything that could give an indication as > to what's up? > > --JW > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Bevilacqua, Michael" <MBevilacqua@aspre.net> > To: "'plug@lists.phillylinux.org'" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:58:04 -0500 > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C091D7.282DF2F0" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C091D7.282DF2F0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've heard a few things here and there about Unix vs. Dos in regards > to virus activity where "there are no significant virui on the unix > platform." Again, I heard something similar last night as I attended > my first PLUG meeting. Is this due to the massive amount of binary > compilation that Dos utilizes over a very ASCii based, open-scripted > and conf'd Unix?=20 > > Regards, > > =20 > Michael Bevilacqua > Technical Consultant > Aspre, Inc. > MBevilacqua@aspre.net > http://www.aspre.com/ > =20 > the first exclusive e-Business Application Service Provider > > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > e-Commerce Development, Hosting, and Integration > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > v. 215.957.2266 Ext. 2179 > f. 215.957.2277 > =20 > 110 Gibraltar Road, Suite 105 > Horsham, PA 19044 > =20 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > iQA/AwUBOoKl7LjV5NyImivmEQKOXwCg+XJ0zYdDGdf9AnXLFkpShGCqWJEAn3Jy > CsmXQM4tozd9BNuQ0Uf1ruYr > =3DGSxB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C091D7.282DF2F0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> > <HTML> > <HEAD> > <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = > 5.5.2653.12"> > <TITLE>[PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content</TITLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I've heard a few things here and there about Unix vs. = > Dos in regards > to virus activity where "there are no = > significant virui on the unix > platform." Again, I heard something similar = > last night as I attended > my first PLUG meeting. Is this due to the massive = > amount of binary > compilation that Dos utilizes over a very ASCii = > based,  open-scripted > and conf'd Unix? > > > Regards, > > >   > Michael Bevilacqua > Technical Consultant > Aspre, Inc. > MBevilacqua@aspre.net > <A HREF=3D"http://www.aspre.com/"; = > TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.aspre.com/</A> >   > the first exclusive e-Business Application Service = > Provider > > > SIZE=3D2>=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0 > SIZE=3D2>=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > e-Commerce Development, Hosting, and = > Integration > SIZE=3D2>=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0 > SIZE=3D2>=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0= > =B0 > =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 > v. 215.957.2266 Ext. 2179 > f. 215.957.2277 >   > 110 Gibraltar Road, Suite 105 > Horsham, PA 19044 >   > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use = > <<A HREF=3D"http://www.pgp.com"; = > TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.pgp.com</A>> > > > SIZE=3D2>iQA/AwUBOoKl7LjV5NyImivmEQKOXwCg+XJ0zYdDGdf9AnXLFkpShGCqWJEAn3J= > y > CsmXQM4tozd9BNuQ0Uf1ruYr > =3DGSxB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > </BODY> > </HTML> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C091D7.282DF2F0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Reply-To: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > From: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] New Member > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:13:36 -0500 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > > 1.) When is the next meeting? > > You literally JUST missed it. :-) > > Meetings are the first Wed of the month; next meeting is March 7. See > http://www.phillylinux.org. > > > 2.) I have a laptop running SuSE 6.1 but am having problems with > connecting > > and PPP. I am willing to bring the laptop to one of the next meetings > (that > > I can attend). > > Need a bit more info. Type of modem; type of error message; what you've > tried; etc. > > And welcome to the list! > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Reply-To: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > From: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:44:51 -0500 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content>From: Bevilacqua, Michael > > >I've heard a few things here and there about Unix vs. Dos in regards > >to virus activity where "there are no significant virui on the unix > >platform." Again, I heard something similar last night as I attended > >my first PLUG meeting. Is this due to the massive amount of binary > >compilation that Dos utilizes over a very ASCii based, open-scripted > >and conf'd Unix? > > Welcome! > > No, it has more to do with the OS design. > > You can script in a Windows environment, too (no one really uses DOS > anymore). And many of the viruses that you hear about - Melissa, I-Love-You, > etc - happen because the OS executes things by default - like HTML scripts > in an email - and Unix does not execute such things by defaut. Also because > many Windows users seem to like executing unknown binaries they get in the > email. :-) > > Unix also does a better job (by default) of enforcing permissions - a user > program can't just go and replace system files in /bin or /sbin, for > example. Windows NT/2000 does this same kind of enforcement (to a somewhat > lesser degree, I think), but not Win9x/WinMe - which is what most home users > have. Those home OS systems are installed wide-open by default; most users > don't know enough to lock them down; and you can't lock them down as tightly > as you can for Unix/WinNT/2K, even if you wanted to. So some user program > could easily replace WSOCK32.DLL - the TCP/IP Sockets Library - with their > own infected version. It's much more difficult for a Unix program to go > replacing /bin/bash, for example. (altho it can happen - that's what root > toolkits are - hacked replacements for system binaries - altho the bad guys > gain entrance to your system via exploits (which are not spreadable) and not > viruses (which are spreadable)) . > > I'm starting to ramble, I think. :-) > > BTW ... you might want to try posting in plain text; a lot of Unix/Linux > folks loathe ... err, dislike .... HTML email. :-) > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:42:10 -0500 > From: MaD dUCK <madduck@madduck.net> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > also sprach Bevilacqua, Michael (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 08:58:04AM -0500): > > I've heard a few things here and there about Unix vs. Dos in regards > > to virus activity where "there are no significant virui on the unix > > platform." Again, I heard something similar last night as I attended > > my first PLUG meeting. Is this due to the massive amount of binary > > compilation that Dos utilizes over a very ASCii based, open-scripted > > and conf'd Unix? > > virui? now that's a new one. i think according to recent discussion, > viruses will be the best choice. > > anyway, to answer your questions - the very small number of *NIX > viruses that exist over the number of windoze ones is mainly related > to three facts: > > - security: windoze has no security. on *NIX, however, receiving a > virus will be as a user in 99% of the cases, and a user can't really > break anything. this really concerns itself with viruses. > - automation: this is the main point against worms on *NIX. while > micro$oft got that concept of usability slightly wrong and made > their $oftware so "powerfully capable," the newest worms don't even > have to be executed anymore... just looking at them will infect the > computer. sure, on *NIX there existed a vi-autocommands exploit and > other similar stuff, but in general it is safe to assume that there > exists no way of getting a user to proliferate a worm by looking at > it. furthermore, windoze provides its crappy API which everyone > knows, so it's a standardized platform for viruses. on *NIX it's > already hard to think about small parts of a collective number of > systems being standardized or similar. > - popularity: society screwed up, everyone is running windoze. so it'd > be boring to write a virus for another OS simply because it wouldn't > have as much impact and wouldn't proliferate as fast. > > there are surely others, but i think these are the main ones... > > martin > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net > -- > scintillation is not always identification for an auric substance. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Reply-To: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > From: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:05:27 -0500 > charset="iso-8859-2" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > > - security: windoze has no security. > > Not quite. Win9X/WinMe don't, you're right about that. NT does; Win2K is > much better and more Unix-like in that regard (they even have a "run as" > command - you know, a Win equivalent of "sudo") > > > on *NIX, however, receiving a > > virus will be as a user in 99% of the cases, and a user can't really > > break anything. this really concerns itself with viruses. > > > - automation: this is the main point against worms on *NIX. while > > micro$oft got that concept of usability slightly wrong and made > > their $oftware so "powerfully capable," the newest worms don't even > > have to be executed anymore... just looking at them will infect the > > computer. > > Which can be minimized on Windows with some Outlook settings, as I mentioned > in an earlier email. The point I'm making is ... there exist mechanisms to > LESSEN (not eliminate) these types of stupidities in Windows, but they're > not enabled by default. So it's easier to make viruses/virii/whatever term > :-) on a Windows platform - because there either ARE no mechanisms > (Win9x/WinMe), or most users don't use them properly (WinNT/2K/Office > users). And even if they did, it's still not as secure as Unix can be made > to be. > > > sure, on *NIX there existed a vi-autocommands exploit and > > other similar stuff, but in general it is safe to assume that there > > exists no way of getting a user to proliferate a worm by looking at > > it. furthermore, windoze provides its crappy API which everyone > > knows, so it's a standardized platform for viruses. on *NIX it's > > already hard to think about small parts of a collective number of > > systems being standardized or similar. > > - popularity: society screwed up, everyone is running windoze. so it'd > > be boring to write a virus for another OS simply because it wouldn't > > have as much impact and wouldn't proliferate as fast. > > > > there are surely others, but i think these are the main ones... > > > > martin > > > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net > > -- > > scintillation is not always identification for an auric substance. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Subject: Re: [PLUG] LinuxWorld Expo > From: Rupert Heesom <raheesom@navpoint.com> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > <200102051707.f15H7SB25377@west.navpoint.com> <3A7EE825.5B41374B@kns.com> > <01020521495800.01025@CG416036-A> > Date: 08 Feb 2001 10:49:16 -0500 > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > On 05 Feb 2001 21:49:58 -0500, qumak wrote: > > Le Lundi 5 Février 2001 12:51, vous (Kevin Brosius) avez écrit : > > > Rupert Heesom wrote: > > > > Hey, that's great. Keith has done a lot of work on XFree86. I'd have > > > liked to see him talk. I can understand it being very technical > > > though. He's written some parts of XFree86 that only a few people > > > understand. > > > > > Just for curiosity - are we talking about the birds of a feather session > > about XFree86? If so, I was there as well, shame we didn't know each other > > existed ;) - if not, then i wasn't there :) > > No, I was talking about the paid session on XFree86. I attended Wed & > Thur of the "sessions" - self financed! > > I was hoping to bump into PLUG guys at the Expo, but since I didn't know > who to look for, didn't know anyone by sight, it was kinda difficult. > Still, I enjoyed most of the show. > > > > -- > regs > rupert > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:06:10 -0500 > From: Bill Jonas <bill@billjonas.com> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: [OT] Respect (was: Re: [PLUG] Unix vs Dos for Virus Content) > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 09:42:10AM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: > > - security: windoze has no security. on *NIX, however, receiving a > > Could I ask you to please refrain from using derogatory (humorous?) > misspellings of the names of other operating systems? While I do not care > for Microsoft products either, I feel that it does us no good as a group > to make fun of them. I feel that this does us more harm than good in > trying to convince people that Linux is a viable platform. To put it > another way: Would you be more or less willing to listen to a Windows > enthusiast if they referred to your platform of choice as "Lunix"? > > To quote the Advocacy mini-HOWTO > <http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Advocacy.html>: > > * Respect the use of other operating systems. While Linux is a > wonderful platform, it does not meet everyone's needs. > > * Refer to another product by its proper name. There's nothing to > be gained by attempting to ridicule a company or its products by > using ``creative spelling''. If we expect respect for Linux, we > must respect other products. > > Thanks for your consideration. > > -- > Bill Jonas | "In contrast to the What You See Is What You > bill@billjonas.com | Get (WYSIWYG) philosophy, UNIX is the You > http://www.billjonas.com/ | Asked For It, You Got It operating system." > http://www.debian.org/ | --Scott Lee, as quoted by Lamb and Robbins > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:08:19 -0500 > From: Bill Jonas <bill@billjonas.com> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] LinuxWorld Expo > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:49:16AM -0500, Rupert Heesom wrote: > > No, I was talking about the paid session on XFree86. I attended Wed & > > Thur of the "sessions" - self financed! > > I'd gotten an exhibit-floor pass, but waited too late to actually make > plans to go. Oh well, maybe next year. > > > I was hoping to bump into PLUG guys at the Expo, but since I didn't know > > who to look for, didn't know anyone by sight, it was kinda difficult. > > Still, I enjoyed most of the show. > > http://www.phillylinux.org/pics/ ;) > > -- > Bill Jonas | "In contrast to the What You See Is What You > bill@billjonas.com | Get (WYSIWYG) philosophy, UNIX is the You > http://www.billjonas.com/ | Asked For It, You Got It operating system." > http://www.debian.org/ | --Scott Lee, as quoted by Lamb and Robbins > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Reply-To: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > From: "Michael Leone" <turgon@mike-leone.com> > To: <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] LinuxWorld Expo > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:14:57 -0500 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > > I was hoping to bump into PLUG guys at the Expo, but since I didn't know > > who to look for, didn't know anyone by sight, it was kinda difficult. > > Heh. Well, we talked once about having T-Shirts or hats or buttons or > something made up, that said "PLUG" on it. > But the consensus seemed to be that no one wanted to spend or collect any > money for anything like that. > > I'm still keen on the idea. T-shirt, hat, or even a button. Anybody else ? > > > Still, I enjoyed most of the show. > > Me, too. If I had the money, I'd hit the August version in San Fran. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:14:15 -0500 > From: LeRoy Cressy <ldc@netaxs.com> > Organization: Linux Force > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] IBM laptop and serial port troubles > <p05010408b6a619026a9c@[207.29.200.50]> <3A80BF0B.B272CE86@bms.com> > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > Serial Port: /dev/ttyS0 = COM1 > > Daniel G Roberts wrote: > > > > Hello All > > > > I have an IBM laptop with a serial port com 1 under win98. > > Under Linux I seem not to be able to open and or talk to the serial port at all. > > Kudzu doesn't help and I can't find any reference to it in /var/log/msgs > > When I try to use minicom on the port no matter where I point /dev/modem I never > > manage to talk to the modem. > > > > Anyone have any idea how I can get this serial port to get up and running?? > > Sincerely > > Dan Roberts > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > -- > Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy mailto:ldc@netaxs.com /\_/\ > http://www.netaxs.com/~ldc ( o.o ) > Phone: 215-535-4037 > ^ < > > Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: > no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:25:56 -0500 > From: Daniel G Roberts <daniel.roberts@bms.com> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] IBM laptop and serial port troubles > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb > <p05010408b6a619026a9c@[207.29.200.50]> <3A80BF0B.B272CE86@bms.com> > <3A82D3E7.1C59D4D0@netaxs.com> > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------0C0396654A77E6B44B723DA8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > and How do you make sure that this port is "on" when a device that works on another > linux box which is now connected to the laptop doesn't respond in minicom? On the > laptop I have tired /dev/ttyS* with no success whatsoever > dan > > LeRoy Cressy wrote: > > > Serial Port: /dev/ttyS0 = COM1 > > > > Daniel G Roberts wrote: > > > > > > Hello All > > > > > > I have an IBM laptop with a serial port com 1 under win98. > > > Under Linux I seem not to be able to open and or talk to the serial port at all. > > > Kudzu doesn't help and I can't find any reference to it in /var/log/msgs > > > When I try to use minicom on the port no matter where I point /dev/modem I never > > > manage to talk to the modem. > > > > > > Anyone have any idea how I can get this serial port to get up and running?? > > > Sincerely > > > Dan Roberts > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > > > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > > > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > > > -- > > Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy mailto:ldc@netaxs.com /\_/\ > > http://www.netaxs.com/~ldc ( o.o ) > > Phone: 215-535-4037 > ^ < > > > > Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: > > no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6) > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > --------------0C0396654A77E6B44B723DA8 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="daniel.roberts.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Daniel G Roberts > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="daniel.roberts.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Roberts;Dan > tel;pager:1-800-693-7243 PIN 17107704 > tel;work:609-818-7132 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:daniel.roberts > fn:Dan Roberts > end:vcard > > --------------0C0396654A77E6B44B723DA8-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:10:01 -0500 > From: LeRoy Cressy <ldc@netaxs.com> > Organization: Linux Force > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] IBM laptop and serial port troubles > <p05010408b6a619026a9c@[207.29.200.50]> <3A80BF0B.B272CE86@bms.com> > <3A82D3E7.1C59D4D0@netaxs.com> <3A82F2C4.FCECBCF2@bms.com> > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > Daniel G Roberts wrote: > > > > and How do you make sure that this port is "on" when a device that works on another > > linux box which is now connected to the laptop doesn't respond in minicom? On the > > laptop I have tired /dev/ttyS* with no success whatsoever > > dan > > > try this: > > cat /var/log/dmesg | grep tty > > this will tell you if the kernel detected any serial ports. > > The longer the system is up and running the kernel messages slip away > from the dmesg command, but the original boot messages are stored in > /var/log/dmesg > > If you get something back like > > ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A > > then /dev/ttyS0 should be working, If not, check your kernel > configuration and build a kernel with serial ports > > > -- > Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy mailto:ldc@netaxs.com /\_/\ > http://www.netaxs.com/~ldc ( o.o ) > Phone: 215-535-4037 > ^ < > > Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: > no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > by descartes.purple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20766 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:13:25 -0500 > From: Jeff Abrahamson <jeff@purple.com> > To: PLUG <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Subject: [PLUG] port listening question > Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > On my firewall, I see the following result of netstat -a. > The telnet is really ssh, so don't worry there: I just have ssh listen > on port 23 so I can get through my company firewall to home. > > I'm wondering if anyone can help me understand whether the other stuff > poses a risk. My interpretation is that since they're not listening, > they must be outgoing, and so they're probably not a problem. But > maybe I'm just confused. > > Tia. > > -Jeff > > ps: The internal interface is called gw.purple.com, the external > puddle.purple.com. > > > > Active Internet connections (servers and established) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State > tcp 0 0 *:telnet *:* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN > udp 0 0 gw.purple.com.0.168:ntp *:* > udp 0 0 puddle.purple.com:ntp *:* > udp 0 0 localhost:ntp *:* > udp 0 0 *:ntp *:* > raw 0 0 *:icmp *:* 7 > raw 0 0 *:tcp *:* 7 > Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established) > Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node Path > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 498914 @000000c6 > unix 0 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 512196 /dev/log > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 653 @00000015 > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 649 @00000014 > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 496 @00000003 > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 498915 /dev/log > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 654 /dev/log > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 650 /dev/log > unix 1 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 497 /dev/log > > > -- > Jeff > > Jeff Abrahamson <http://www.purple.com/jeff/> > > > > > > --__--__-- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug > > End of PLUG Digest > ------------------------------------------------------- About Global Business Center (http://www.gbcGLOBAL.com): Global Business Center, Inc. specializes in building customized workflow and workforce optimization and knowledge management systems. 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