W. Chris Shank on Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:30:10 +0100


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Re: Job Postings was Re: [PLUG] Another Job Opening [Network Admin - Plymouth Meeting]


i agree with JP. i'm out of work and it sucks. it's nice to just see job 
opportunities, period.


-chris

On Saturday 23 March 2002 08:44 am, you wrote:
> Im gonna have to disagree with alot of this so far.
> While I DO agree that tossing around job postings on
> the PLUG list is probably inappropriate - perhaps we
> could add a job section to the PLUG web site that
> regulars could post to? I know there are a few links
> there already... The point is that there are still
> alot of unemployed folks out there who would like to
> have any job... regardless of whether it's
> administering NT or Unix or Linux or whatever. For you
> to balk at non-linux job postings in this day and age
> is bad form. Certainly I think the list should stay on
> topic but to complain when a well-intentioned member
> is trying to help out his fellow linux users with the
> prospect of employment is just wrong.
>
> That said... Im happy to write or help write or
> upgrade the PLUG job section to allow for posts. We
> could setup some kind of time limit so they'de
> disapear after awhile.
>
> Sure administering NT isn't as nice or as fun as linux
> but there are some people out there who need jobs and
> who wouldn't mind splitting a referral bonus. Don't
> speak for them just because your job requirments allow
> for linux ONLY.
>
> - JP
>
> --- Chuck Peters <cp@ccil.org> wrote:
> > On 22 Mar 2002, Tobias DiPasquale wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 21:13, Chuck Peters wrote:
> > > > Agreed?
> > >
> > > No. How is it that you want to enforce this
> >
> > cost-per-message model? Are
> >
> > > we to give our credit card numbers upon signup for
> >
> > this list?
> >
> > I doubt PLUG even has a bank account.  I think that
> > the mechanics of
> > enforcement will be weak, but that doesn't mean that
> > it would be
> > impossible to collect.  Having thought about this
> > issue some, what I plan
> > to do with another Linux list is notify the user
> > subscribing of the policy
> > prior to them signing up.  The policy will be
> > similiar to what Debian does
> > with its advertising policy
> > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads. The
> > bill is to be paid to and sent from a couple of
> > non-profit groups: CCIL
> > and EPCC (pending the approval of the non-profit
> > boards of both
> > organizations).  Perhaps PLUG can make arrangements
> > with some local
> > non-profits or Nothinbut.net who is hosting the
> > lists.
> >
> > > And what
> > > about people who access this list from a news
> >
> > gateway (as I do)?
> >
> > PLUG is obviously doing something to filter spam or
> > this list would be
> > filled with it.  I think adding some filtering for
> > job postings shouldn't
> > be too much trouble.
> >
> > > While
> > > your idea may be nice in theory, it would be
> >
> > nearly impossible to manage
> >
> > > in practice. If you __REALLY__ don't want to see
> >
> > M$ postings that bad,
> >
> > > then we just block those members from the list
> >
> > after they perpetrate the
> >
> > > crime one time. That's a much simpler, easier task
> >
> > and will get the
> >
> > > point across with much more immediacy.
> >
> > That would be better than what we have now.  But I
> > do prefer the idea of
> > charging fees because it might generate some revenue
> > and it sends a
> > message to subscribers and companies that this list
> > has REAL value.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chuck
>
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