Paul L. Snyder on 11 Jun 2004 15:30:04 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Re: VIM and ASCII


Quoting Matthew Ozor <mtozor@yahoo.com>:

> You guys read into things too much and by doing so you
> miss the simple question. 
> 
> When typing in VIM in -INSERT- mode all characters are
> standard 0-127 ascii. I was asking how to type in the
> EXTENDED ACSII codes 128-255. I didn't need to know
> about setting different terminals, or all ISO
> characters sets.  *Using a missle to kill an ant* 

Because you didn't care about "pointless facts" you did
not ask the question in a way that people who know the 
particular "pointless fact" that you want would know
exactly which one you were looking for.

The entire point of all these "missiles" and "books" is
that "EXTENDED ASCII" is an extremely ambiguous term.
I'm sure we're very sorry that we didn't magically know
what you meant.

> How hard would it be for someone to say -> CTRL-V x##

If you had read my first message, perhaps you would have
noticed that I said:

  "Alternately, you can use Ctrl-V to enter a character
  by numeric value."

My mailer also showed a list of characters with
diacritical marks.  If you had specified that you were
looking for ways to enter codepage 437 graphical
characters, the inconsiderate entity that is the "PLUG
list" would likely have provided advice that was closer
to the information that you were trying to obtain.

> I notice alot of that on the PLUG list. No need to
> write a book when one sentence will do. If you don't
> know the ansewer don't complicated the problem with
> pointless facts.

"If you don't know the answer..."  Charming.  If you 
had read the "pointless" messages instead of stewing
over how they weren't providing the information that
you so richly deserve, you might have noticed that
they were being answered by people who actually know
a fair amount about the topic, and that the way you
were asking the question was ambiguous and incorrect.
You could then have rephrased the question in a way
that graciously clarified your query.  Capitializing
the word "EXTENDED" does not count as clarification,
particularly when it follows a number of messages
about different ways that "EXTENDED ASCII" might be
understood.

I've got to say that this makes me pretty grumpy.  I 
subscribe to this mailing list to learn new things, and
to help people.  I _appreciate_ it when other people
take the time and the trouble to share their knowledge.
I try to take the time to figure out what people are
asking, and to share the things that I have learned
through my own experimentation.  I often give more
information than is strictly requested because I'm not
just responding to the person asking the question - 
I'm sending a message that will be seen by all the
subscribers to PLUG, and I hope that the information
may be of interest to at least a few people on the
list, knowing that those who aren't interested HAVE
THE OPTION OF NOT READING IT!

You're welcome.

pls
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