| Stephen Gran on 4 Dec 2004 16:02:01 -0000 |
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On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 09:53:14AM -0500, Art Alexion said: > Stephen Gran wrote: > >On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:54:22PM -0500, Art Alexion said: > >>Am starting to use and like Debian via Ubuntu. As OOo has a ton of bug > >>fixes over the Ubuntu Warty standard 1.2, I wanted to upgrade, but there > >>are no plans to "apt-ify" beyond 1.1.2 for the Warty release. I've been > >>warned about updating apt installed software via source or .bin > >>scripts. I know there are a number of Debian users on this list. What > >>are your thoughts. > > > >The way I generally try a new version is to get the new source from the > >distributor, and 'apt-get source' the old version. It may just be > >possible to apply the debian patch (diff.gz) to the new version, edit > >debian/changelog to set the correct new version, and debian/rules binary > >to build it. A quick glance shows debian patches all over the place for > >this package, so it may not be trivial. > > > Sound very non-trivial if it needs to be done often and a lot of places > for potential errors. > > >The easiest solution here, as Sean has pointed out, is probably just to > >remove the Ubuntu version, and install the new one in /usr/local. > >Presumably the install script allows you to set DESTDIR, although I have > >not checked. > > > Yes, it does, and recommends /opt. > > However, it looks like Ubuntu puts most of it in /usr/lib/openoffice > with gnome and other system hooks all over the place, presumably > pointing to the /usr/lib location. It looks like the program itself is > divided into about 6 .deb entries: the program, the libraries, the > I10n.en and the hyphenation.en packages. You can remove all of these. > The other installed .deb package is Ubuntu specific. The description reads: > > *Debian specific parts of OpenOffice.org* > This is part of the packaging of OpenOffice.org for Debian. > > This package contains extra files supplied by Debian that are not > part of the > upstream source: > > - man pages > - README.Debian and TODO > - Debian menu files > - MIME types for mail handling > - startup and configuration script (/usr/bin/openoffice) At least on Debian, this depends on openoffice, so it will also be removed. > Do you think it would be safe to remove all of the .deb packages except > the foregoing, and then install to /usr/lib/openoffice from the script? I'd say remove them all. Install the new upstream, and if you really want the manpages and wrapper scripts and whatnot, use equivs to satisy dependencies and reinstall the openoffice-debian-files package. This is not hugely necessary, though, at least IMHO. > Or, > > To satisfy dependencies, should I just remove the files manually so that > apt thinks they are still there? That is a bad idea - it will blow things up later. > Or > > Should I just install the update *over* the old version? Also a bad idea. > Or > > Is this dangerous, and I should just forget it? No, it's quite do-able. It's just that dpkg is a package manager, and all package managers suck. dpkg sucks slightly less than all the others, but confusing it can still have disastrous results. It's best to install other things outside of the path that the distro uses. So, /opt or /usr/local would be fine. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Stephen Gran | * knghtbrd can already envision: | | steve@lobefin.net | "Subject: [INTENT TO PREPARE TO PROPOSE | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | FILING OF BUG REPORT] Typos in the | | | policy document" | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment:
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