Edward Pike on 7 Aug 2010 19:33:42 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] hosting at home- handling dns

  • From: Edward Pike <jondzpike@gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [PLUG] hosting at home- handling dns
  • Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:33:35 -0400
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Hi Ron,

If i may jump in with a slightly different setup,

I hosted websites, mail, dns, etc from home as a learning experience a while back when i had static IPs.  Then switched ISP which have dynamic IP.  For now I just have an external host (a paid one) and host all connections there, but I connect thru vpn (openvpn).  So I proxy everything back to my own server thru vpn.  The setup is more complicated, but I dont worry about ip adresses anymore--i dont even know the IP of my home router.  Plus i learned a little on openvpn (really nice to know) and apache proxy.   The downside is bandwidth for serviing is limited (capped).  But i use it mostly for learning, nothing serious.

I agree with not using 192.168.1.x.  I'm using it but too lazy to reconfigure everything again but i wish i picked a different internal address.

ep



On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Lee Marzke <lee@marzke.net> wrote:
On 08/07/2010 08:03 PM, Edmond Rodriguez wrote:
Didn't he say DSL?  My DSL changes IP addresses.
 
Dynamic IP's change, so if your site is important you can't rely on the fact that "normally" it only
changes once a year.


I was thinking about getting something like

http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_dns/free_dynamic_dns.html

.... so I  could have a hostname to give to people when and if I try
to remotely support them using a reverse connection VNC

Does anyone else use that?
 
I find it more reliable to run the client on the router/firewall.
Use the service your router supports ( see below )

I have not figured out yet how I would make my machine report into the
DNS service above.  Is it easy to do?
 
I use zoneedit.com  for managing my static IP's DNS ( about a dozen domains ), but
zoneedit also does dynamic IP,   and are free for the 1st 5 domains.

For instance my router/firewall is Endian ( see my Plug talk)  and that has clients for
almost all the dynamic IP accounts included in the appliance.


I had experimented with running a server on my machine here to learn
how to do it.  I had to change firewall settings on my Router, on top
of port mapping to make it work (Filter Internet NAT Redirection).
 

It's good practice to not put internal stuff ( like your main computer with
shared files )  on the same server as your webserver.   Even better is to
put the webserver in the DMZ on a separate LAN segment.

Of course with virtulization,   you can have multiple servers all running on the
same physical box.



On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Casey Bralla<MailList@nerdworld.org>  wrote:
 
You probably won't need dynamic DNS.   Your external IP will probably remain
stable for as long as you use the same cable modem (it keys off the MAC
address of the cable modem).

I host several sites, but got a business class account.  This leaves me
unfiltered access.  I'm pretty sure most home accounts filter extensively,
especially port 21.  Port 80 may be open, but many people switch to port 8080.


   
I highly recommend a business class account if your hosting.  I use
speakeasy.net business instead of Verizon but at some point may upgrade to
FIOS business.



On Saturday 07 August 2010 4:00:31 pm Ron Kaye Jr wrote:
   
 any of you folks host a web site at home?
i will purchase RonaldKaye.com this weekend

i have verizon dsl, which appears to nat my 192.168.1 network to a valid
verizon address. do i setup some kind of dynamic dns?
     
Please consider avoiding 192.168.1.X    .   That gets you into all sorts of trouble when you want to route through
a VPN tunnel to another location that is also running 192.168.1.X      Reprogram your router to a
network that is more likely unique.

Pick another network like  192.168.177.X   or 10.x.x.x ( but not 10.0.0.x ) and use that.




Ron Kaye Jr
     
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Casey Bralla

Chief Nerd in Residence
The NerdWorld Organisation

http://www.NerdWorld.org
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