Re: [PLUG] Strange networking (or Verizon marketing) question.

John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dig into the actiontech interface.. You will see two moca
interfaces. One is the WAN moca, the other is the LAN moca interface.
In addition to these interfaces, I believe there are WAN and a LAN
ethernet interfaces. What you want to do is bridge your Moca wan to
one of the ethernet interfaces. And then using a seperate actiontech.
Bridge your Moca Lan to an ethernet interface. The reason that two
action-techs are needed is that they only to my knowledge support one
bridge. So in this set up you essentially have one actiontech acting
like a cable modem, and the second acting as an ethernet to Moca
bridge for the set top boxes. They only need access to get guide
information and can happily do that throught the NAT of any off the
shelf Router of your choice. Let me know if this makes any sense.

 -John


Coax to ONT---
AT CM ----(WAN) Router (LAN) ---- AT Moca Bridge --- Inside Coax



On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Carl Johnson
<cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote:
> can you elaborate? as far as i know settops ONLY get data and VoD via MoCA
> as they don't have a way to connect to ethernet otherwise.
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> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X
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> John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> There is a way to get around the MoCa stuff by using two action-tech
>> "routers" in bridged mode to bridge the correct ethernet to the
>> correct places using your own router of choice.
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>>  -John
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>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Rich Freeman <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net>
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM, John BORIS <jboris@adphila.org> wrote:
>> >> Fios is a bit more complicated as the router they give you also handles
>> >> some sort of tv function. I amabout to see about using a different
>> >> wireless router at home as the one the provide doesn't have good signal
>> >> strength in my house. Good for security but a PIA when i want to use my
>> >> ipad in the back of the house.
>> >
>> > The router doesn't actually do any TV functions.  What it does do is
>> > act as a DHCP server, both to your
>> ethernet and Wifi (ie your
>> > computers), AND to an ethernet-over-coax protocol that the set-top
>> > boxes use.  So, the router is just a router, but the set-top boxes use
>> > it, and if they can't get an IP connection then they lose guide data
>> > and on-demand.  The video itself is sent via a separate channel (QAM I
>>
> assume - I know there is a bunch of encrypted QAM on the line and
>> > clear QAM for the locals).
>> >
>> > So, if you don't like the FIOS router it is a pain to avoid.  You can
>> > either live with double-NATing, or you can set it to bridged mode.
>> > However, if you bridge the router then it won't listen to anything but
>> > your own router, and since your own router probably doesn't speak the
>> > fancy ethernet-over-coax protocol (and likely isn't attached to the
>> > coax at all), then the set top boxes won't be happy.  You can also
>> > ditch their router entirely if you can
>> convince Verizon to turn on the
>> > ethernet port on your ONT.  Again, the set top boxes won't be happy.
>> >
>> > If you don't care about the guide data or on-demand on the set top
>> > boxes, then you
don't need to worry about any of that.  I just hook my
>> > set-top boxes up to MythTV anyway - so they don't do much but tune
>> > channels and waste electricity.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
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