| John Kreno on 3 Sep 2012 20:58:19 -0700 |
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| Re: [PLUG] Strange networking (or Verizon marketing) question. |
That's correct. I'm not sure that Verizon will let you run from the Ethernet port if you have TV service with them. So this is a work around for the crowd that has TV service. There is also a work around using only one action tech, but it is shaky at best. -John On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Carl Johnson <cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote: > ok now i follow you. that's an alternative to running ethernet all the way > from your ONT to your own router. gotcha' > > > > > > Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X > > John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you dig into the actiontech interface.. You will see two moca >> interfaces. One is the WAN moca, the other is the LAN moca interface. >> In addition to these interfaces, I believe there are WAN and a LAN >> ethernet interfaces. What you want to do is bridge your Moca wan to >> one of the ethernet interfaces. And then using a seperate actiontech. >> Bridge your Moca Lan to an ethernet interface. The reason that two >> action-techs are needed is that they only to my knowledge support one >> bridge. So in this set up you essentially have one actiontech acting >> like a cable modem, and the second acting as an ethernet to Moca >> bridge for the set top boxes. They only need access to get guide >> information and can happily do that throught the NAT of any off the >> shelf Router of your choice. Let me know if this makes any sense. >> >> -John >> >> >> Coax to ONT--- >> AT CM ----(WAN) Router (LAN) ---- AT Moca Bridge --- Inside Coax >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Carl Johnson >> <cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote: >> > can you elaborate? as far as i know settops ONLY get data and VoD via >> > MoCA >> > as they don't have a way to connect to ethernet otherwise. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X >> > >> > John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> There is a way to get around the MoCa stuff by using two action-tech >> >> "routers" in bridged mode to bridge the correct ethernet to the >> >> correct places using your own router of choice. >> >> >> >> -John >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Rich Freeman >> >> <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM, John BORIS <jboris@adphila.org> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Fios is a bit more complicated as the router they give you also >> >> >> handles >> >> >> some sort of tv function. I amabout to see about using a different >> >> >> wireless router at home as the one the provide doesn't have good >> >> >> signal >> >> >> strength in my house. Good for security but a PIA when i want to use >> >> >> my >> >> >> ipad in the back of the house. >> >> > >> >> > The router doesn't actually do any TV functions. What it does do is >> >> > act as a DHCP server, both to your >> >> ethernet and Wifi (ie your >> >> > computers), AND to an ethernet-over-coax protocol that the set-top >> >> > boxes use. So, the router is just a router, but the set-top boxes >> >> > use >> >> > it, and if they can't get an IP connection then they lose guide data >> >> > and on-demand. The video itself is sent via a separate channel (QAM >> >> > I >> >> >> > assume - I know there is a bunch of encrypted QAM on the line and >> >> > clear QAM for the locals). >> >> > >> >> > So, if you don't like the FIOS router it is a pain to avoid. You can >> >> > either live with double-NATing, or you can set it to bridged mode. >> >> > However, if you bridge the router then it won't listen to anything >> >> > but >> >> > your own router, and since your own router probably doesn't speak the >> >> > fancy ethernet-over-coax protocol (and likely isn't attached to the >> >> > coax at all), then the set top boxes won't be happy. You can also >> >> > ditch their router entirely if you can >> >> convince Verizon to turn on the >> >> > ethernet port on your ONT. Again, the set top boxes won't be happy. >> >> > >> >> > If you don't care about the guide data or on-demand on the set top >> >> > boxes, then you >> don't need to worry about any of that. I just hook my >> >> > set-top boxes up to MythTV anyway - so they don't do much but tune >> >> > channels and waste electricity. >> >> > >> >> > Rich >> >> > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> >> > http://www.phillylinux.org >> >> > Announcements - >> >> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> >> > General Discussion -- >> >> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> John Kreno >> >> >> >> "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little >> >> >> temporary >> >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >> >> Announcements - >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> >> General Discussion -- >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ >> >> > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> > http://www.phillylinux.org >> > Announcements - >> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> > General Discussion -- >> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> John Kreno >> >> "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin >> ________________________________ >> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> http://www.phillylinux.org >> Announcements - >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> General Discussion -- >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- John Kreno "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug