Re: [PLUG] Strange networking (or Verizon marketing) question.

John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote:
That's correct. I'm not sure that Verizon will let you run from the
Ethernet port if you have TV service with them. So this is a work
around for the crowd that has TV service. There is also a work around
using only one action tech, but it is shaky at best.

 -John

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Carl Johnson
<cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote:
> ok now i follow you. that's an alternative to running ethernet all the way
> from your ONT to your own router. gotcha'
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> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X
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> John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you dig into the actiontech interface.. You will see two moca
>> interfaces. One is the WAN moca, the other is the LAN moca interface.
>> In addition to these
interfaces, I believe there are WAN and a LAN
>> ethernet interfaces. What you want to do is bridge your Moca wan to
>> one of the ethernet interfaces. And then using a seperate actiontech.
>> Bridge your Moca Lan to an ethernet interface. The reason that two
>> action-techs are needed is that they only to my knowledge support one
>> bridge. So in this set up you essentially have one actiontech acting
>> like a cable modem, and the second acting as an ethernet to Moca
>> bridge for the set top boxes. They only need access to get guide
>> information and can happily do that throught the NAT of any off the
>> shelf Router of your choice. Let me know if this makes any sense.
>>
>>  -John
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>>
>> Coax to ONT---
>> AT CM ----(WAN) Router (LAN) ---- AT Moca Bridge --- Inside Coax
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>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Carl Johnson
>> <cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > can you elaborate? as far as i know settops ONLY get data and VoD via
>> > MoCA
>> > as they don't have a way to connect to ethernet otherwise.
>> >
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>> > Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X
>> >
>> > John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is a way to get around the MoCa stuff by using two action-tech
>> >> "routers" in bridged mode to bridge the correct ethernet to the
>> >> correct places using your own router of choice.
>> >>
>> >>  -John
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Rich Freeman
>> >>
<r-plug@thefreemanclan.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM, John BORIS <jboris@adphila.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Fios is a bit more complicated as the router they give you also
>> >> >> handles
>> >> >> some sort of tv function. I amabout to see about using a different
>> >> >> wireless router at home as the one the provide doesn't have good
>> >> >> signal
>> >> >> strength in my house. Good for security but a PIA when i want to use
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> ipad in the back of the house.
>> >> >
>> >> > The router doesn't actually do any TV functions.  What it does do is
>> >> > act as a DHCP server, both to your
>> >> ethernet and Wifi
(ie your
>> >> > computers), AND to an ethernet-over-coax protocol that the set-top
>> >> > boxes use.  So, the router is just a router, but the set-top boxes
>> >> > use
>> >> > it, and if they can't get an IP connection then they lose guide data
>> >> > and on-demand.  The video itself is sent via a separate channel (QAM
>> >> > I
>> >>
>> > assume - I know there is a bunch of encrypted QAM on the line and
>> >> > clear QAM for the locals).
>> >> >
>> >> > So, if you don't like the FIOS router it is a pain to avoid.  You can
>> >> > either live with double-NATing, or you can set it to bridged mode.
>> >> > However, if you bridge the router then it won't listen to anything
>> >> > but
>> >> >
your own router, and since your own router probably doesn't speak the
>> >> > fancy ethernet-over-coax protocol (and likely isn't attached to the
>> >> > coax at all), then the set top boxes won't be happy.  You can also
>> >> > ditch their router entirely if you can
>> >> convince Verizon to turn on the
>> >> > ethernet port on your ONT.  Again, the set top boxes won't be happy.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you don't care about the guide data or on-demand on the set top
>> >> > boxes, then you
>> don't need to worry about any of that.  I just hook my
>> >> > set-top boxes up to MythTV anyway - so they don't do much but tune
>> >> > channels and waste electricity.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rich
>> >> >
>> >>
>>

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