| Gavin W. Burris on 2 Mar 2015 07:48:22 -0800 |
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| Re: [PLUG] Child Proofing my Home Network |
Hi, John. I'm struggling through these issues now, too. I always thought that I would just keep the "PC" in the family room. But, now, there is a web browser in every pocket, and on every device with a screen. Not to mention 4G and random social apps; How do you filter that? I agree with the sentiment others are proffering, that filtering only gets you so far and has philosophical detractions. Filtering is a means to prevent virgin eyes from seeing that which cannot be unseen. Hopefully, I can minimize the trauma the white underbelly of the Internet can inflict before my progeny are old enough to explore without protections. Cheers. On 10:25AM Mon 03/02/15 -0500, john boris wrote: > Gavin > You are correct. I am currently using OpenDNS. It is just one thing to put > in place that buys me time to do more. It all comes down to teaching her > the correct way and teaching her that there are rules that we all have to > abide by in life. Suffice it to say this is just the tip of the iceberg in > this little girls life. All I can do is the best I can. > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Gavin W. Burris <bug@wharton.upenn.edu> > wrote: > > > Hi, John. > > > > I recommend going minimalist, if this isn't for yourself and not > > immediately accessible for fixes. The most minimal thing would be to > > set OpenDNS DNS on the existing modem/router LAN settings tab. Done! I > > think I may do this myself sometime soon. > > > > I have a feeling that deploying a more complex solution will prompt much > > eye-rolling when its movie night and everyone has to sit patiently while > > you fiddle with the pi/ddwrt/whatever for an hour. I've been there, and > > done with that! :D > > > > Cheers. > > > > On 09:27AM Mon 03/02/15 -0500, john boris wrote: > > > I am not set on the Pi. I was just trying to find a solution that was low > > > power. My wife is a blood hound for power using devices. I want to find a > > > solution that will eventually my son can install at his place. He is > > > computer savvy enough to do it but the kid is a single parent and he is > > > struggling. > > > > > > I have never dealt with DDwrt but will add that to my list to > > investigate. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:50 PM, John Kreno <john.kreno@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > I think you or someone else had mentioned something like openDNS > > earlier > > > > in the thread. Maybe a router that has DDwrt and support for OpenDNS > > would > > > > be a better fit for your particular application. I don't know what your > > > > current internet speeds are, and I can't predict what they will be next > > > > year or the following year, but one important thing to keep in mind > > about > > > > the RasPi is that the on board Network is usb based, and then you > > either > > > > have to vlan your traffic into that one interface for public/private > > or you > > > > have to add a second interface either wired or wireless that will also > > be > > > > usb based on the same bus. Just some things to think about, maybe > > someone > > > > on the list already covered. I have only been following this on and > > off. > > > > Are you set on the Pi as the hardware end of the solution? > > > > > > > > -John > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:20 PM, john boris <jborissr@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> No problem thanks > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Carl Johnson < > > cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I've not seen Smoothwall on ARM either. I wasn't trying to push you > > one > > > >>> way or the other. Just mentioning another way to do it is all. > > > >>> > > > >>> On February 28, 2015 1:54:37 PM EST, john boris <jborissr@gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Yes but I haven't seen it on th Pi > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Carl Johnson < > > > >>>> cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> It's not only for Arduino's. I have it running, in one example, on > > a > > > >>>>> newer Dell R210 II. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On February 28, 2015 12:49:26 PM EST, john boris < > > jborissr@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Yes. Pfsense runs on Arduinoni I think and isn't an option I have > > > >>>>>> thought about > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Carl Johnson < > > > >>>>>> cjohnson19791979@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> In addition to Smoothwall, pfSense has a bunch of add on modules > > > >>>>>>> that can be plugged in too. pfBlocker is one, forexample. > > Pfsense has a > > > >>>>>>> somewhat steeper learning curve though. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On February 27, 2015 4:09:34 PM EST, john boris < > > jborissr@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Smoothwall was mentioned off line and I will investigate it as I > > > >>>>>>>> investigate e2guardian > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Friday, February 27, 2015, Rich Freeman < > > > >>>>>>>> r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM, john boris < > > jborissr@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > When i first got involved with the Internet in the early > > 80's I > > > >>>>>>>>> could be 99% > > > >>>>>>>>> > sure the person on the other end of the bbs or the email was > > who > > > >>>>>>>>> they said > > > >>>>>>>>> > they were. Today you almost need a dna test to make sure the > > > >>>>>>>>> person on the > > > >>>>>>>>> > other end of the wire is a real person. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I tend to agree. My personal sensibilities are to be fairly > > > >>>>>>>>> liberal > > > >>>>>>>>> on this stuff. However, from experience I can say that kids > > can > > > >>>>>>>>> end > > > >>>>>>>>> up doing things that are really dumb, and this puts at risk > > their > > > >>>>>>>>> own > > > >>>>>>>>> safety, or the security of the family. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Maybe the kid wants to download free movies online because > > that is > > > >>>>>>>>> what all the other kids are doing. Then the parent ends up > > being > > > >>>>>>>>> hit > > > >>>>>>>>> with pay-up-or-be-sued letters to the tune of thousands of > > dollars. > > > >>>>>>>>> The kid in elementary school obviously has no sense of what > > $10k > > > >>>>>>>>> is. > > > >>>>>>>>> Maybe the kid runs into this really friendly but persuasive > > other > > > >>>>>>>>> kid > > > >>>>>>>>> online who isn't a kid at all. Kids can sometimes be very > > quick to > > > >>>>>>>>> trust strangers while assuming the worst of their own > > parents. I > > > >>>>>>>>> remember my stepdaughter as a kid describing some guys her age > > as > > > >>>>>>>>> creepy and others as nice, and I got the sense that the > > distinction > > > >>>>>>>>> was in how nice-looking or charming they were. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> All of these are teachable moments of course. The problem is > > that > > > >>>>>>>>> there are some kinds of situations that are irreparable. I > > > >>>>>>>>> believe in > > > >>>>>>>>> letting kids make mistakes so that they can learn from them. > > If > > > >>>>>>>>> that > > > >>>>>>>>> means a burnt finger or a broken $10 toy, it is a learning > > > >>>>>>>>> experience. > > > >>>>>>>>> It becomes a problem when the costs start getting serious or > > the > > > >>>>>>>>> injuries becoming life-changing. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Parenting is often a lot harder than it might seem... > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>> Rich > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>>>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.phillylinux.org > > > >>>>>>>>> Announcements - > > > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > >>>>>>>>> General Discussion -- > > > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> John J. Boris, Sr. > > > >> Head Freshmen Football Coach > > > >> Camden Catholic High School > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > > >> http://www.phillylinux.org > > > >> Announcements - > > > >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > >> General Discussion -- > > > >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > John Kreno > > > > > > > > "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary > > > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > > > http://www.phillylinux.org > > > > Announcements - > > > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > > General Discussion -- > > > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > John J. Boris, Sr. > > > Head Freshmen Football Coach > > > Camden Catholic High School > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > http://www.phillylinux.org > > > Announcements - > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > General Discussion -- > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > > Gavin W. Burris > > Senior Project Leader for Research Computing > > The Wharton School > > University of Pennsylvania > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements - > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion -- > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > John J. Boris, Sr. > Head Freshmen Football Coach > Camden Catholic High School > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Gavin W. Burris Senior Project Leader for Research Computing The Wharton School University of Pennsylvania ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug