Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops

A lot of very good information in here. I'll be sure to add that to my radio as well, before FOSSCON. I finally have a battery that lasts longer than half an hour. Keith saw this at PLUG the other night.

Jim, thank you for the information and I look forward to seeing your installfest.

Looking forward to FOSSCON this year! It's gonna be the best!

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1. Re: FOSSCON communication ops (Jim Fisher)
2. Re: FOSSCON communication ops (Jim Fisher)
3. OT: FOSSCON Less than ONE WEEK AWAY (Jim Fisher)
4. Re: FOSSCON communication ops (Keith C. Perry)

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 18:47:08 -0400
From: Jim Fisher <jedijf@myfisher.org>
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Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops
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QSL.

Last year was my first FOSSCON as an amateur.

We went, what some thought was a little 'ham heavy'.

There is a trend in security conferences for license testing and much
more. Much of the 'much more' is based on SDR.

I will have amateur gear and so will others. I suggested that we use
the 'con simplex'

Simplex 146.580 http://conham.org/

as our local talk frequency.

If you want license testing or anything else at FOSSCON please let the
staff know your interests. Not me. All the others. My interest in
known.

If there is a strong enough interest, I am sure that /almost/ anything
amateur related can be added to FOSSCON '16.

Less than ONE week!

Gotta go, tons of stuff to do!

See you all at FOSSCON Saturday.

73

sk

On 8/14/15, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
> Good point !
>
> One of the things I like about the Baofeng's is that there is nothing to do
> to achieve this. In fact, in CHIRP there is a default config for FRS/GMRS
> and MURS. Just open those up and copy them to your config. You'll have to do
> some name editing since the Baofeng screen is only 7 chars but once you're
> done you're good.
>
> Most important thing is to set the power to the lowest setting which
> actually is still to high for FRS...
>
> Which is why have have a little "mini-duck" antenna :)
>
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> (M) +1.215.432.5167
> www.daotechnologies.com
>
>
> From: "Guo Yixuan" <culu.gyx@gmail.com>
> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List"
> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:36:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2015 12:08, "Keith C. Perry" < kperry@daotechnologies.com >
> wrote:
>>
>> This might not be the right place to talk about this but Chris (paden) and
>> I were talking about this and I figured I would just put it out there. I
>> know Jedi Jim is lurking too...
>>
>> Are we going to have a net up for FOSSCON? To operations cases come to
>> mind here:
>
> Great idea!
>
>> general communication for FOSSCON operations
>> opportunity to show and talk about amatuer radio to attendees. This
>> includes pointing out to people that they do not have to be licensed to
>> purchase the radio and ANY decent vhf/uhf ham radio is going to be worth
>> getting because you can use it for FRS and MURS without a license. If
>> someone has or wants a GMRS license they can also use the same rig. Point
>> being, they can listen in on amateur stations and even if they don't
>> license (or get licensed right away), the radio is still useable.
>
> It's worth noticing that some vhf/uhf radios don't allow transmitting on
> FRS/MURS bands by default (to my surprise). It's better to check the spec
> before purchasing one.
>
> eg., for TH-F6A, some electrical mod is needed:
> http://w4zt.com/mods/thf6/mods.html
>
>> I want to credit Jim for getting me to first consider the Baofeng's last
>> year. I didn't want to put out the money to fix or replace my Yaesu so
>> this sub $100 was perfect to get me back on the net after a very long time
>> being away.
>>
>> Anyway, this is first full FOSSCON so I'm not sure how things have
>> operated before but I thought I would ask.
>>
>> 73, N3QQZ clear
>>
>> :)
>
> By the way, I'm quite new to amateur radio. I was encouraged by my college
> friend and took the exam, but didn't try much after getting my callsign
> (KC3CES). Anyway, I'm looking forward to play more with radio if time
> allows.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yixuan
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>
> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org
> Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
>
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>

--
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Jedijf
KC3BRA

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 18:55:51 -0400
From: Jim Fisher <jedijf@myfisher.org>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List"
<plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops
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BTW, it was a security conference, BsidesDE, in November (2013), that
got me motivated to get licensed. (and into Bull Mastiffs; redbull
with shots of espresso)

http://jedijf.blogspot.com/2013/11/bsidesde-projectphree-and-amateur-radio.html

I anticipate /another/ wireless class at Bsides15 in November. Josh &
Janice will probably be at FOSSCON too.

2014 we built ADSB antennas!

http://www.securitybsides.com/w/page/28563447/BSidesDelaware

On 8/16/15, Jim Fisher <jedijf@myfisher.org> wrote:
> QSL.
>
> Last year was my first FOSSCON as an amateur.
>
> We went, what some thought was a little 'ham heavy'.
>
> There is a trend in security conferences for license testing and much
> more. Much of the 'much more' is based on SDR.
>
> I will have amateur gear and so will others. I suggested that we use
> the 'con simplex'
>
> Simplex 146.580 http://conham.org/
>
> as our local talk frequency.
>
> If you want license testing or anything else at FOSSCON please let the
> staff know your interests. Not me. All the others. My interest in
> known.
>
> If there is a strong enough interest, I am sure that /almost/ anything
> amateur related can be added to FOSSCON '16.
>
> Less than ONE week!
>
> Gotta go, tons of stuff to do!
>
> See you all at FOSSCON Saturday.
>
> 73
>
> sk
>
> On 8/14/15, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
>> Good point !
>>
>> One of the things I like about the Baofeng's is that there is nothing to
>> do
>> to achieve this. In fact, in CHIRP there is a default config for FRS/GMRS
>> and MURS. Just open those up and copy them to your config. You'll have to
>> do
>> some name editing since the Baofeng screen is only 7 chars but once
>> you're
>> done you're good.
>>
>> Most important thing is to set the power to the lowest setting which
>> actually is still to high for FRS...
>>
>> Which is why have have a little "mini-duck" antenna :)
>>
>>
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
>> Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
>> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
>> (M) +1.215.432.5167
>> www.daotechnologies.com
>>
>>
>> From: "Guo Yixuan" <culu.gyx@gmail.com>
>> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List"
>> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:36:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2015 12:08, "Keith C. Perry" < kperry@daotechnologies.com >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This might not be the right place to talk about this but Chris (paden)
>>> and
>>> I were talking about this and I figured I would just put it out there. I
>>> know Jedi Jim is lurking too...
>>>
>>> Are we going to have a net up for FOSSCON? To operations cases come to
>>> mind here:
>>
>> Great idea!
>>
>>> general communication for FOSSCON operations
>>> opportunity to show and talk about amatuer radio to attendees. This
>>> includes pointing out to people that they do not have to be licensed to
>>> purchase the radio and ANY decent vhf/uhf ham radio is going to be worth
>>> getting because you can use it for FRS and MURS without a license. If
>>> someone has or wants a GMRS license they can also use the same rig.
>>> Point
>>> being, they can listen in on amateur stations and even if they don't
>>> license (or get licensed right away), the radio is still useable.
>>
>> It's worth noticing that some vhf/uhf radios don't allow transmitting on
>> FRS/MURS bands by default (to my surprise). It's better to check the spec
>> before purchasing one.
>>
>> eg., for TH-F6A, some electrical mod is needed:
>> http://w4zt.com/mods/thf6/mods.html
>>
>>> I want to credit Jim for getting me to first consider the Baofeng's last
>>> year. I didn't want to put out the money to fix or replace my Yaesu so
>>> this sub $100 was perfect to get me back on the net after a very long
>>> time
>>> being away.
>>>
>>> Anyway, this is first full FOSSCON so I'm not sure how things have
>>> operated before but I thought I would ask.
>>>
>>> 73, N3QQZ clear
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> By the way, I'm quite new to amateur radio. I was encouraged by my
>> college
>> friend and took the exam, but didn't try much after getting my callsign
>> (KC3CES). Anyway, I'm looking forward to play more with radio if time
>> allows.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Yixuan
>> ___________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org
>> Announcements -
>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
>>
>> General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>>
>
>
> --
> jim fisher
> Jedijf
> KC3BRA
>
> irc freenode #ubuntu-us-pa
> www.myfisher.org
>
> "Do, or do not. There is no 'try.'"
> -- Jedi Master Yoda
>

--
jim fisher
Jedijf
KC3BRA

irc freenode #ubuntu-us-pa
www.myfisher.org

"Do, or do not. There is no 'try.'"
-- Jedi Master Yoda

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:19:59 -0400
From: Jim Fisher <jedijf@myfisher.org>
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Subject: [PLUG] OT: FOSSCON Less than ONE WEEK AWAY
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http://fosscon.us/

Saturday August 22nd, 9AM
1501 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PA - See more at:
http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf
FOSSCON will be held Saturday, August 22nd, 2015 in Center City-
Philadelphia at the Friends Center.

FOSSCON is a free and open source software conference that include talks
and workshops on topics including development, community building,
hackerspace activities, and more.

An all day Linux Install Fest. Local Linux celeb ESR.

Check out the schedule: http://fosscon.us/Schedule

Doors open at 9am. Hospitality suite will have bagels, pastry and coffee.

NTR will have laptops available for a $20 donation for you to install Linux
on.

REGISTER NOW: http://www.eventbee.com/v/fosscon2015

Can't wait to see everyone Saturday.
FOSSCON will be held Saturday, August 22nd, 2015 in Center City-
Philadelphia at the Friends Center. - See more at:
http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf
FOSSCON will be held Saturday, August 22nd, 2015 in Center City-
Philadelphia at the Friends Center. - See more at:
http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf
FOSSCON 2015

FOSSCON will be held Saturday, August 22nd, 2015 in Center City-
Philadelphia at the Friends Center.
- See more at: http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf
FOSSCON 2015

FOSSCON will be held Saturday, August 22nd, 2015 in Center City-
Philadelphia at the Friends Center.
- See more at: http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf
Saturday August 22nd, 9AM
1501 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PA - See more at:
http://fosscon.us/#sthash.57P3IZoC.dpuf

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Ok, thanks for the come back Jim...

I didn't know about the "hamcon" frequency so I added that to my radio. I'm interested to see how that gets used.

To my other point though- general FOSSCON op comm... is there a need for that or is something already in place? That type of traffic isn't something that would be carried over the ham bands generally but considering that most ham radios are FRS/GMRS/MURS capable is would be an opportunity to have hams (and non-hams) help out with that if there was a need (and they had a capable radio).

I know it may seem like a weird question but I've done a lot of conferences from the attendee, presenter and personnel point-of-view and the one thing things that is necessary all the time is good communications. I think I noticed last year people "running" around looking for each other or having questions about who was where. My understanding of this location is that it is a little bit smaller so perhaps this is not a significant concern.

There will probably be enough hams around to jump in if needed- 'kinda what we do anyway :D

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
(O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
(M) +1.215.432.5167
www.daotechnologies.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fisher" <jedijf@myfisher.org>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 6:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops

QSL.

Last year was my first FOSSCON as an amateur.

We went, what some thought was a little 'ham heavy'.

There is a trend in security conferences for license testing and much
more. Much of the 'much more' is based on SDR.

I will have amateur gear and so will others. I suggested that we use
the 'con simplex'

Simplex 146.580 http://conham.org/

as our local talk frequency.

If you want license testing or anything else at FOSSCON please let the
staff know your interests. Not me. All the others. My interest in
known.

If there is a strong enough interest, I am sure that /almost/ anything
amateur related can be added to FOSSCON '16.

Less than ONE week!

Gotta go, tons of stuff to do!

See you all at FOSSCON Saturday.

73

sk

On 8/14/15, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
> Good point !
>
> One of the things I like about the Baofeng's is that there is nothing to do
> to achieve this. In fact, in CHIRP there is a default config for FRS/GMRS
> and MURS. Just open those up and copy them to your config. You'll have to do
> some name editing since the Baofeng screen is only 7 chars but once you're
> done you're good.
>
> Most important thing is to set the power to the lowest setting which
> actually is still to high for FRS...
>
> Which is why have have a little "mini-duck" antenna :)
>
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> (M) +1.215.432.5167
> www.daotechnologies.com
>
>
> From: "Guo Yixuan" <culu.gyx@gmail.com>
> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List"
> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:36:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] FOSSCON communication ops
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2015 12:08, "Keith C. Perry" < kperry@daotechnologies.com >
> wrote:
>>
>> This might not be the right place to talk about this but Chris (paden) and
>> I were talking about this and I figured I would just put it out there. I
>> know Jedi Jim is lurking too...
>>
>> Are we going to have a net up for FOSSCON? To operations cases come to
>> mind here:
>
> Great idea!
>
>> general communication for FOSSCON operations
>> opportunity to show and talk about amatuer radio to attendees. This
>> includes pointing out to people that they do not have to be licensed to
>> purchase the radio and ANY decent vhf/uhf ham radio is going to be worth
>> getting because you can use it for FRS and MURS without a license. If
>> someone has or wants a GMRS license they can also use the same rig. Point
>> being, they can listen in on amateur stations and even if they don't
>> license (or get licensed right away), the radio is still useable.
>
> It's worth noticing that some vhf/uhf radios don't allow transmitting on
> FRS/MURS bands by default (to my surprise). It's better to check the spec
> before purchasing one.
>
> eg., for TH-F6A, some electrical mod is needed:
> http://w4zt.com/mods/thf6/mods.html
>
>> I want to credit Jim for getting me to first consider the Baofeng's last
>> year. I didn't want to put out the money to fix or replace my Yaesu so
>> this sub $100 was perfect to get me back on the net after a very long time
>> being away.
>>
>> Anyway, this is first full FOSSCON so I'm not sure how things have
>> operated before but I thought I would ask.
>>
>> 73, N3QQZ clear
>>
>> :)
>
> By the way, I'm quite new to amateur radio. I was encouraged by my college
> friend and took the exam, but didn't try much after getting my callsign
> (KC3CES). Anyway, I'm looking forward to play more with radio if time
> allows.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yixuan
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>
> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org
> Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
>
> General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>

--
jim fisher
Jedijf
KC3BRA

irc freenode #ubuntu-us-pa
www.myfisher.org

"Do, or do not. There is no 'try.'"
-- Jedi Master Yoda
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