| Thomas Delrue on 13 Sep 2017 14:11:57 -0700 |
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| Re: [PLUG] Why Can't Programmers.. Program? |
On September 13, 2017 3:00:18 PM EDT, brent timothy saner <brent.saner@gmail.com> wrote: >On 09/13/2017 02:47 PM, Thomas Delrue wrote: >> On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:38:30 PM EDT brent timothy saner >wrote: >>> i'm not even a developer, i'm in operations- but this is still >terrifying to >>> me. >> >> And yet you, who are not a developer, write (production?) code which, >in turn, >> terrifies /me/... :P >> (I kid, I kid...) >> > >honestly, it's a valid point. i write enough to manage my boxen; that's >all i need. one of the greatest tragedies of the "devops movement" is >people treating operators as devs and vice versa. my totally >unscientific and unprovable personal theory is that this shift is >what's >led to so much of an upswing in security breaches within the past 10 >years. I'm right there with you... >>> but more to the point of TFA itself, i find it *horrifying* that >there are >>> people looking for dev jobs that can't at least do SOME sort of >iteration >>> of this >> >> I've seen things that would make me want to bleach my eyes... >horrible things >> that no-one taking part in an interview loop should ever be subjected >to. >> >> I once had a candidate who said "I can't write the code for this >because I >> don't code, but I could explain to you how I would do it". >> *facepalm* what part of "/write a program/" do you not understand? >> >> You come away with a feeling along the lines of "either this person >is >> suffering from serious brain damage, or the new vacuum cleaners have >> arrived"(*). >> >> (*) Thank you, mr Atkinson: >http://bytesdaily.blogspot.com/2013/07/rowan-atkinson-bitter-wedding-speech.html >> > >please tell me the "i don't code" guy wasn't interviewing for a >developer position. please. i need some faith in humanity. Sometimes it is unwise to ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to... -- Thomas (Sent from my mobile device, please forgive brevity or typos.) ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug