Thomas Delrue on 13 Sep 2017 14:11:57 -0700

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Re: [PLUG] Why Can't Programmers.. Program?

On September 13, 2017 3:00:18 PM EDT, brent timothy saner <> wrote:
>On 09/13/2017 02:47 PM, Thomas Delrue wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:38:30 PM EDT brent timothy saner
>>> i'm not even a developer, i'm in operations- but this is still
>terrifying to 
>>> me.
>> And yet you, who are not a developer, write (production?) code which,
>in turn, 
>> terrifies /me/... :P
>> (I kid, I kid...)
>honestly, it's a valid point. i write enough to manage my boxen; that's
>all i need. one of the greatest tragedies of the "devops movement" is
>people treating operators as devs and vice versa. my totally
>unscientific and unprovable personal theory is that this shift is
>led to so much of an upswing in security breaches within the past 10

I'm right there with you...

>>> but more to the point of TFA itself, i find it *horrifying* that
>there are
>>> people looking for dev jobs that can't at least do SOME sort of
>>> of this
>> I've seen things that would make me want to bleach my eyes...
>horrible things 
>> that no-one taking part in an interview loop should ever be subjected
>> I once had a candidate who said "I can't write the code for this
>because I 
>> don't code, but I could explain to you how I would do it".
>> *facepalm* what part of "/write a program/" do you not understand?
>> You come away with a feeling along the lines of "either this person
>> suffering from serious brain damage, or the new vacuum cleaners have 
>> arrived"(*).
>> (*) Thank you, mr Atkinson:
>please tell me the "i don't code" guy wasn't interviewing for a
>developer position. please. i need some faith in humanity.

Sometimes it is unwise to ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to...

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