Lee H. Marzke on 7 Nov 2017 07:53:26 -0800 |
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Re: [PLUG] small business server virtualization? |
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Freeman" <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 10:09:01 AM > Subject: Re: [PLUG] small business server virtualization? > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Lee H. Marzke <lee@marzke.net> wrote: >> >> Yes you can, but it costs money to re-design. So a business looks the >> cost of redesign, and then the cost to manage 100 separate containers >> instead of just 1 VM >> and it's not clear that you win anything. > > Why would you run only 1 VM in a situation where you would be running > 100 containers? You would run one container per application instance, > and you would run one VM in the same situation. > I'm no expert on Docker containers, but if you take a typical VM from VMware such as vCenter Appliance, it runs a tomcat web server, postgreSQL DB, a round-robin DB an inventory service, and message broker like rabbitMQ. To properly use containers , if I understand it, each of these services would be split out, and some services might be split into several sub-services perhaps at the module level so that you get high re-use. So a VM like vCenter would take dozen or more containers to implement it. > Sure, if you compare dumping all your services onto one VM to > isolating them the complexity sort-of goes down, but then I'm not sure > why you're even bothering to virtualize. > > I will agree that if you already have 100 physical hosts it is going > to be easier to just migrate them 1:1 to 100 VMs. However, putting an > application in a container isn't really any more complex than putting > them in a VM otherwise. > > -- > Rich > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- "Between subtle shading and the absence of light lies the nuance of iqlusion..." - Kryptos Lee Marzke, lee@marzke.net http://marzke.net/lee/ IT Consultant, VMware, VCenter, SAN storage, infrastructure, SW CM +1 800-393-5217 office +1 484-348-2230 fax ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug