| Lee H. Marzke on 18 Dec 2017 10:00:07 -0800 |
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| Re: [PLUG] CalDAV server on linux |
See below ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith C. Perry" <kperry@daotechnologies.com> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:38:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PLUG] CalDAV server on linux > +1 > > I've been using Zimbra for a long time now (over 5 years) and it is rock solid. > I can't say enough good about it. You don't actually **need** ActiveSync to > sync your mail- IMAPS works just fine along with the other encrypted mail > transports. Correct, but to sync Calandar, Contacts and Email on Android Active Sync is the only thing I've found that works reliably mobile devices. Personally I prefer cal / contacts synced on my phone and wanting to avoid google. > > There are other sync options for cal and contacts if you want to do that. I've > tested then before and they do work but I personally don't normally sync those > things so I can't speak to their long term reliability. They were fairly new > some years ago when I tried them out so ActiveSync is probably the way to go > for the best reliability and availability. > > That said, it appears basic ActiveSync is now included in the standard version > of Zimbra 8.8 > (https://blog.zimbra.com/2017/12/whats-new-zimbra-collaboration-8-8/#mobile). > > Zimbra also now has an internal "Chat" (XMPP compatible) and "Drive" function so > it really is becoming an alternative to G-Suite. Interesting new features, I'm on an older version with my provider. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. > Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC > (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 > (M) +1.215.432.5167 > www.daotechnologies.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee H. Marzke" <lee@marzke.net> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" > <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:15:20 PM > Subject: Re: [PLUG] CalDAV server on linux > > I've been using a hosted Zimbra provider for years, and it does > email/calandar/addressbook/Active sync > on Win/Lin/Android / iPhone, etc. This just works without any hassle but does > retail for around > $20/user/month. > > Years ago I tried using all the open source calendaring solutions, CalDAV, etc. > and/or email but > nothing worked, and basically wasted hours of my time. The thing is, Active > Sync is the only > product that seems to work in a reliable way across all devices ( because so > many people use Exchange) , so > using a product with ActiveSync just works. > > For a company $20/month/user is so cheap you should be jumping. Note that > corporate features such > as legal archive/hold and trash retention can also be added - and if your using > open source I'm not sure > how you comply with any of those legal requirements. Of course that isn't a > problem until your company is part > of a legal action, but by then it's too late to add a hold because users or > corp officers delete email. > Note that the IT person may be responsible for keeping email from being deleted > even by officers - ask your > corp counsel. > > Legal hold provide archiving of all users email for the time provide in your > corp policies. This way users email > is preserved even if they delete it themselves. If your company is notified of > a pending legal action and you don't prevent > users from deleting messages, your company is likely in much more trouble. > > Most small companies are completely un-prepared for the legal holds required of > email, etc. Corporate > wide search is also available so you can provide that search tool to your legal > team to pair down the amount of > emails provided. > > Much better to only provide emails requested, then provide ALL of them. > > Note I don't do the legal stuff myself, I just have an attorney in the family > that I've discussed email requirements > at length, and it seems only the large companies really understand this. I do > encourage > small companies I deal with to setup email archiving and search up front so it > can be used when required. > > Lee > > PS: If your willing to provide your own support to users, you might be able to > get reseller account > and provide this hosted service to internal users at much less than the pricing > above. You can talk to > me off-list for more info. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg Helledy" <gregsonh@gra-inc.com> >> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" >> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> >> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:03:24 PM >> Subject: [PLUG] CalDAV server on linux > >> Our company needs a calendaring system. Our hosting provider includes >> the Horde suite, with its "Kronolith" server, in our service. >> Unfortunately, due to a long-standing bug which has been marked >> resolved, it's really not usable for us. >> (If someone sends you an emailed invitation to an event, and you accept >> using a mail client (like Thunderbird), instead of simply adding the >> event to your calendar and replying that you will attend, Kronolith will: >> 1. Send out a cancellation notice to every recipient of the invitation >> 2. Create an identical event with you as the organizer on your calendar >> 3. Send out an invitation to the new event to every recipient >> https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/13664 >> >> I have tried setting up Baikal (http://sabre.io/baikal/) on our server, >> but the configuration of Apache is not automatic and I'm obviously >> missing some detail. I can log in to the admin interface, add users, >> etc. and add the calendar to the client, but events created never get >> onto the server--the CalDAV communications simply don't go. >> >> So, my choices seem to be: >> -find another calendar server application that doesn't require much >> config to get working >> -find a professional CalDAV hosting provider, who uses something other >> than Horde >> >> The latter is tricky in that it's usually bundled with email, which is a >> fairly expensive service to provide well (dealing with spam, etc.) so >> they have to charge $10-$20 per month per user. >> >> If anyone has any recommendations for either software or a reliable >> hosting provider willing to offer just calendars, please drop me a note. >> >> Thanks, >> -- >> Greg Helledy >> GRA, Incorporated >> P: +1 215-884-7500 >> F: +1 215-884-1385 >> www.gra.aero >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org >> Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > -- > "Between subtle shading and the absence of light lies the nuance of iqlusion..." > - Kryptos > > Lee Marzke > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- "Between subtle shading and the absence of light lies the nuance of iqlusion..." - Kryptos Lee Marzke, lee@marzke.net http://marzke.net/lee/ IT Consultant, VMware, VCenter, SAN storage, infrastructure, SW CM ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug