Re: [PLUG] POSSIBLE TALK

If you had any questions about SFL, feel free to shoot them my way. I use SFL to run several distributions on multiple machines on a daily basis. The hard reality is that there are plenty of applications in daily use where Linux is second best or not even competing (for a few, not trying to start a sidebar conversation, HiDPI screen support is still hit and miss, switchable graphics is still a dirty word in Linux land, and commercial software is still second-class, using wine or virtualization for unsupported apps). There’s progress, and no reason to give up the fight, but there can be valid reasons to run Windows. Beyond the technical discussion, what if your workplace requires Windows? It’s all well to declare that you would rather die than use Windows, but are you seriously going to endorse that statement? It comes across more Don Quixote than Che Guevara. I might have said it myself years ago, but these days the starving wife+children give me pause about launching Holy Crusades.

That set aside, SFL is actually intended for guys like you and me, not for the great unwashed masses of Facebook. If having real, working traceroute/ping/dig/ssh sounds nice, you are the target market. If you ask what those are, this is a toy for you, at best. The intention from MS is to get guys like me to use SFL instead of dual booting, and personally, I find it works really well. It certainly makes a fine replacement for PuTTY/MobaXTerm. Again, if you have any technical questions about how SFL works, hit me. I can probably tell you anything you want to know. It’s actually a really clever tool, *if* you are running Windows 10 and the idea of a slim and light CLI-only Linux install sounds attractive.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 17:00 Ronald P Guilmet <ronpguilmet@gmail.com> wrote:

I ran it by some Windows users on FaceBook, and it went down in flames. Forget the topic.
Peace al

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Ronald P Guilmet <ronpguilmet@gmail.com> wrote:
yes thank you. I'm noting this now.. I

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Michael Leone <turgon@mike-leone.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:47 PM, <bergman@merctech.com> wrote:
> Please try to keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of users don't
> place a priority on "Free" and "Open" software.

I would say that is a given, for that user base. If any concept of
"free" comes foremost to mind, it would be the economic sense, not the
philosophical sense.

> If you want to appeal to this audience -- a group that is unlikely to
> follow the PLUG mailing list and attend the talk at all -- I recommend
> picking a software example that showcases increased productivity under
> the the Linux subsystem.

I couldn't agree more.

> Rather than beginning with the Linux subsystem and low-level utilities
> (tar!), it's probably better to appeal to those users by emphasizing
> FOSS application software packages that are reasonable alternatives to
> well-known commercial packages: LibreOffice, GIMP, GNUCash, ect.

Exactly.

I would think using LibreOffice as an alternative to MS Office (or
even the free online Office 365, or it's competitor, Google Docs, etc)
would be the best example. Especially if you are speaking of "general"
productivity. I'm pretty sure you'll find more users of an office
suite, on a regular basis, than photo editing (GIMP), or accounting
(GNUCash - I used to use this, and drifted away. As of a few years
back, it wasn't the easiest of interfaces. In my case, I didn't
replace GNUCash use with anything else, I just stopped keeping track
the way I used to).

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