David Collins via plug on 26 Apr 2020 08:38:52 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Fwd: Zoom

I missed that creating an account was a sticking point. You're right that you still have to create an account and login. One way around that would be to use a throwaway email account just for Zoom. I'm pretty sure you do not actually need the Chrome extension to join calls. Their UI seems deliberately designed to make it difficult to join with just the browser. It keeps pushing their client software and extension. But I have joined a Zoom call with audio without using their extension.

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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:48 PM, Keith C. Perry via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:

The very first thing I tried was to see if I could install the Zoom Chrome plug-in while in guest mode on my Chromebook.  That would have been brilliant but I think I was just in denial when I tried it since you can't install extensions in guest mode and I'm pretty sure I knew that LOL.  I certainly wasn't going to associate Zoom with my gmail account and making one just for Zoom was equally unpalatable.

You mentioned Firefox though and I didn't realize it worked with that...

***testing with Lubuntu 19.04 Desktop Live CD***

...ugh, they want you to sign-in with Google or another account.  Looks like the documentation is exactly correct for both Chrome and FF.

"The Zoom Extension for Browsers allows you to start or schedule your Zoom meeting with a single click from your browser or within Google calendar."

No mention of "join" (like it says for the androidOS and Linux apps) so unless you have an account, the browser option would not work.


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From: "Eric Lucas via plug" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:42:27 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Fwd: Zoom

I could not get Zoom to work in KUbuntu with Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, or Iridium. 
I'll probably try out Qubes on one of the unused desktop systems I have sitting around here. 
One thing I don't need is a computer system that requires hours of configuration to do a simple task so I must test it out first. 
Also, I love KDE. 

Eric

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:03 PM David Collins via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:
One possible compromise (I apologize if this was already mentioned) is to use Zoom only in a browser. It appears to support all of its major functionality using a current web browser. This isn't as good as fully isolating it using a VM or live boot but still better than just installing the Zoom binary client. The browser sandboxing is standing between Zoom and your actual system. For slightly better protection you could create a separate browser profile used only for Zoom. Or run the browser in a totally separate user account used only for Zoom. This would be a middle ground in the tradeoff between security and convenience if you have to use Zoom.

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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:36 AM, Keith C. Perry via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:

> If were doing multiple calls a day or something regular I would just leave it up or grab something old out of inventory to dedicate. Being as safe as possible is more important to me than being comfortable so I don't mind the steps. Ultimately I need to figure out why the cam is not being picked up in virtualization. That would be preferred solution.
>
> I don't have normal video conferencing use for business so this is my solution for the people who just won't stop using Zoom and I can't so no to attending. Other solutions I use from my regular system.
>
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> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> (M) +1.215.432.5167
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walt Mankowski via plug" plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 8:12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Fwd: Zoom
>
> Keith,
>
> To be clear, you go through all these steps every single time you use
> Zoom? We use BlueJeans at work and I'm averaging 2-3 calls a day. I'm
> glad it's working for you, but personally I'd go insane if I had to go
> through all this prep for every meeting.
>
> Walt
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 05:58:23PM -0400, Keith C. Perry via plug wrote:
>
> > My solution to using Zoom has been to make a "ghost" system. Basically, I boot a Live CD (Lubuntu is my goto) completely into ram (not necessary but I like not having the USB stick hanging out). I keep the Zoom (and Skype for that matter) on my storage network so once the system is up, I umount everything, remove the USB stick then connect to the storage network to install Zoom. I create an account and switch over to it. Get the Zoom meeting ID, password and I'm good to go. When done, I just shutdown since everything was in RAM.
> > Someone with a Zoom account help me test yesterday- 3+ hours later, the only thing that had happened was that my mic dropped out for some unknown reason. Just has to manually put the level up and turn off the auto adjustment.
> > I don't want to use Zoom but since everything else requires accounts and Jitsi Meet isn't in the know, this is my way around the situation.
> > BTW, this should work in virtualization too which is what I initially tried but for so reason, I'm having an issue with the system recognizing my cam when I pass it through. I going to play with that more because then I could just keep a VM for Zoom or Skype.
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> > Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
> > (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> > (M) +1.215.432.5167
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jeff via plug" plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" plug@lists.phillylinux.org, "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 5:26:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Fwd: Zoom
> > Zoom is still wonderful, esp to the people who don't know better.
> > When we were done with a Webex call, it stays huge, then started
> > displaying stuff from address books and calendars. Teams is so huge that
> > it needs its own monitor. Definitely more solid than Skype. Also didn't
> > shrink to usable levels.
> > This sounds like an unaired Python (Monty) episode:
> > Hello, this is Ministry of Making Software You Can't Use because it's
> > Bloody huge. How can I help you?
> > Sir, it's about this program from Microsoft...
> > Not YOU too. If I didn't have 7.5 hours of Microsoft complaints, I could
> > get something done around here. They call me when I'm in the loo. I see
> > the logos in my sleep.
> > I'm sorry- is this the Ministry of Making Software You Can't Use
> > because it's Bloody huge.
> > Absolutely.
> > Ooh, I was hoping you were it. I can't get anything done, because I
> > can't shrink the software past a certain point. And the design might've
> > been done by monkeys on coke. Do you have any copies of Teams?
> > Sorry, Sir, usually arrives Tuesday.
> > No matter. Skype?
> > Fresh out of it, Sir.
> > Leisure Suit Larry?
> > Nope.
> > I hear there's a great sale on Zoom.
> > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> > Vermin Supreme and the Flying Spaghetti Monster - vote wisely, vote often
> > MALA - Make America Libertarian Again
> >
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