Aaron Blohowiak on 27 Jul 2006 01:44:59 -0000

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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Rails Diatribe

Deployment shouldn't be as hard as it is, I agree.

Shared hosting is not viable for java apps, either. Because rails gets loaded into memory and sits there, it consumes a lot of system resources that shared hosts can't or won't give their customers. When you are running rails, you are running a resource-intensive app.  There are places like railsplayground.com where you can get cheap, good enough rails hosting that includes svn. You could get a vps with 96mb memory for 20 bucks a month from rimuhosting. then again, if you are worried about hosting bills less than a hundred a month, i wonder who you're getting to develop your app. 

Aaron Blohowiak

On Jul 26, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Mike Evans wrote:

I think that overall everyone has pointed to an interesting cunundrum
in the Rails community... on the one hand the Rails core team wants to
eschew "enterprisey-iness" but on the other hand commercially
supporting simple small-scale Rails apps can be a pain.  There really
isn't a great solution for shared hosts (which is ruled by php and
will continue to be for some time), and virtual and dedicated hosts
are both too expensive and technical for many people.


On 7/26/06, Flinn Mueller <theflinnster@gmail.com> wrote:
I think a lot of people hold fastCGI against Rails.  What is the
better solution?  I have been using mongrel for about a week.  For
development it is noticably more speedy than ./script/server.  I am
interested in using mongrel for deployment on a big app with a
dedicated server, but what choice do I have if I deploy to just about
anything other than a dedicated server?  It's especially bothersome
for menial applications like typo (I mean that in the most
affectionate way).  FastCGI is even worse on shared hosting setups,
even the ones that support it (mine at least).

Of course none of this is RoR's fault, but fCGI does hurt its street
cred a bit.


On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:39 AM, Aaron Blohowiak wrote:

> He holds the flakinees of fastCGI against rails, which is a stupid
> thing to do.  He also thinks that the people most benifiting from
> rails are the publishers. and here i thought it was the teams of
> small people doing big things...

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