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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Ruby-Presenters and Non-ruby presenters?
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Thanks, Cliff. I'll definitely download those and take a look.
I still would greatly value seeing a practical example from scratch. It's a great learning experience to watch how someone else approaches a problem. For example, if anyone out there is still stuck in Java/C# land, check out some of JP Boodhoo's screencasts on his blog or on DNRTV (yes, that stands for "Dot Net Rocks TV" - how's that for team spirit!?) He takes a simple user story, and implements it while demonstrating TDD, DDD, and/or design patterns (he has a bunch of screencasts). All very well done, and I found myself absorbing a lot more when watching him code something up from scratch.
www.jpboodhoo.com
www.dnrtv.com
On 9/18/07, Cliff Moon <
cliff@moonpolysoft.com> wrote:The link was posted on this list a while ago, but you should check out
the Joyent connector and slingshot apps. They're big, non trivial apps
done in rails.
http://joyeur.com/2007/07/13/connector-and-slingshot-open-sourced-and-free
Brian Donahue wrote:
> Expanding on the TDD topic, if I may boldly suggest work for others
> :) The biggest obstacle for me in really digging into Rails is that I
> come from a Java (long ago) and C# (now) background and have been
> influenced by the "Double-Ds:" Domain Driven Design, Behavior Driven
> Design, and Test Driven Design/Development. I have a pretty good
> understanding of how to apply these approaches in my familiar strongly
> typed, compiled languages, but when I sit down with Rails I get mired
> in the ActiveRecord and Controller implementations and feel like I
> start to write very procedural, unpretty code. I would like to see a
> real-world "enterprisey" (by that I just mean that it has more complex
> logic than a blog or some such) examples that show how the various
> layers, especially domain models/logic, are abstracted (or not) and why.
>
> Perhaps that can be boiled down to this: I don't usually want my
> business objects coupled tightly to my DB tables a la Active Record,
> and I'm not sure if that is a good habit, that I can continue in
> Rails, or if it's just that I haven't grokked a different/better
> approach using Rails.
>
>
> On 9/18/07, *Mat Schaffer* <schapht@gmail.com
> <mailto:schapht@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Wow... Are we gonna need a vote to narrow it down to two next month?
> -Mat
>
> On Sep 18, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
> > For any future meeting, I'm willing to do a presentation on
> > Login/Authentication, touching on plugins, which would be
> > beginner-ish.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 9/18/07, Mat Schaffer <schapht@gmail.com
> <mailto:schapht@gmail.com
>> wrote:
> >> First, awesome PubNite last night! Glad everyone came out and
> I hope
> >> everyone had as good a time as I did.
> >>
> >> Second, it's about time to round up presenters for October. Anyone
> >> interested? I'm considering doing an introductory level TDD
> >> presentation (TDD basics, Test::Unit tricks, Rails integration
> >> tests), so let me know if anyone's interested in that.
> >>
> >> Also, I got a note from the PHP Meetup group awhile back asking
> about
> >> cross-presenting. Anyone interested in a PHP framework (Symfony,
> >> CodeIgniter, Zend Framework) presentation as one of the october
> >> presentations?
> >>
> >> Thanks all,
> >> Mat
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