Wayne Eisenberg on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:40:56 -0500 (EST)


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RE: Elegant snippet from an overall excellent piece...


Title: RE: Elegant snippet from an overall excellent piece...

AMEN, Brother!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenny, Vale T [mailto:vkenny@FLEETCC.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 11:13 AM
> To: Bob Suchowierski
> Cc: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> Subject: RE: Elegant snippet from an overall excellent piece...
>
>
>               While you are correct, for business, it does
> come down to
> the almighty $, I think you are missing the perspective.  Put
> in simpler
> terms, do you want to teach someone how to use a shovel, or
> train them to
> operate a backhoe?  Whilst the shovel user will be useless in
> a backhoe, the
> backhoe operator will be able to jump out of the backhoe and pick up a
> shovel anytime. 
>               I'd much rather have a staff of users that feel
> comfortable
> moving about in a powerful environment, knowing they can
> perform some level
> of basic analysis of a computer problem before turning to a
> support person.
> Equally, these folks will more easily move down to simpler
> platforms, with
> the confidence which arises from familiarity with a more
> powerful tool.
> That is to say, UNIX users can use NT with relative ease,
> whereas NT users
> are virtually helpless on a UNIX system.
>               It all depends on your perspective.  Are you in for
> immediate gratification, with limited return, or will you
> hold out for an
> investment which will benefit you for the long term. 
>               This concept is integral to the current
> difficulties we are
> experiencing in American society.  We have a society built on
> immediate
> gratification, which will lead to speedy returns, but the
> long term growth
> is questionable.  We currently have the ability to perform almost any
> technological feat we choose, but because of a desire to make
> money !NOW!,
> we cripple our ability to develop higher, long term yields in
> the future. 
>               Sorry, off on a tangent.  I see many parallels
> in the battle
> between UNIX and NT and the rest of life.  Do you want the
> hot babe on your
> arm now because she looks good now, or are you seeking someone who can
> recite the first fourteen quatrains of "The Rubiyat of Omar
> Khayyam" and
> will continue to blow your mind for years to come?  A question of
> perspective.
>               Again, sorry for the lark.
>               Do you understand my point though?  It is something that
> UNIX has always known, IBM learned, and Micro$lop is about to learn.
>
>               Vale Theodore Kenny KSC
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>                               -----Original Message-----
>                               From:   Bob Suchowierski
> [SMTP:rsuchowi@nimbus.temple.edu]
>                               Sent:   Friday, December 18,
> 1998 1:34 PM
>                               To:     Vale Kenny
>                               Subject:        Re: Elegant
> snippet from an
> overall excellent piece...
>
>                       this is well put.  Our problem is
> however that most
> organizations do not wish
>                       to
>                       actually PAY for that mastery.  Winblows allows
> organizations to hire
>                       personnel
>                       who have less knowledge of systems (all
> those idiot
> boxes) and therefore
>                       allows them to pay less money to those
> people.  In
> the end, it all comes
>                       down to the all mighty dollar.  Until the Unix
> systems reach a point where
>                       we can put a person infront of the box
> and tell them
> that they are on their
>                       own, realizing the freedom is just a
> pipe dream. (in
> my opinion).
>
>                       Bob Ski
>      
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>                       Stupid computer? No silly Stupid USER!
>      
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>                       Vale Kenny wrote:
>
>                       > Mastery of UNIX, like mastery of
> language, offers
> real freedom. The
>                       > price of freedom is always dear, but
> there's no
> substitute. Personally,
>                       > I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a
> bitmapped, pop-up-happy
>                       > dungeon like NT. I'm hoping that as IT folks
> become more seasoned and
>                       > less impressed by superficial
> convenience at the
> expense of real
>                       > freedom, they will yearn for the kind
> of freedom
> and responsibility UNIX
>                       > allows. When they do, UNIX will be
> there to fill
> the need.
>                       >
>                       > TWDT is at:
>                       >
> http://www.performancecomputing.com/features/9809of1.shtml
>                       >
>                       > Peace Folks,
>                       > Vale
>                       >
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