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Ok, Vale's rant mode...
/on
I do not mean to offend, and it is not aimed at you Xtian, but I have to
take issue with this situation. I have worked with numerous paper CNA & MCSE,
none of whom were worth a fiddlers shit when it came to getting real work done.
Too many of them were just in it for the money, getting the most while doing
the least. Call me a luddite, but I think people should earn their marks, and
then take a test to cover any bases they may be weak on. I am no guru, far
from it, as certain members of this list will attest to, but I've earned what
respect I have from doing and performing, not from some piece of paper that
ensures I have some cursory knowledge of a specific topic. I am not saying
that certification is a pointless gesture either. It could be an excellent
barometer for seperating the wheat from the chaff, distinguishing between those
who really know their shit, and those who are muddling along hoping to get by
on a good line of bullshit. I've been to numerous interviews where the
interviewer asked the three or four questions about areas I had not dealt with,
and it would have been endlessly useful to have a writ stating my competency in
an area, but there is no test such as that. THe closest is Cisco's
CCIE. There ain't no way to fake that. Flashing a piece of paper that says I'm
great at cramming, and have paid for the classes should be useless. The
greatest minds I've had the luck to work with are not certified (although some
of them should be :-> ). And some of the worst are roughly the equivalent of
used car salesmen (the stereotype, my apologies to the used car salesmen that
are honest) who were papered out the wazoo.
Michael is correct, if you really need the CNA, and plan to add to the
knowledge and respect of Novell, then go for it. But feeding money to a
papermill simply for the sake of adding letters to you title is questionable at
best, and underhanded at worst. IT professionals are still not afforded the
respect we deserve, even though we are in huge demand now. Most execs view us
as spoiled children, rather than hardworking folks with integrity.
I urge you, everyone, if you are going to get certified, be sure you are doing
it to add to the respect of the field, so you and everyone in our little
sub-culture can benefit. If you're pouring money down some companies throat
just so you can earn mo' money without adding anything in a larger sense, then
maybe you should rethink your drives.
/off
Again, I mean no offense, especially to you Xtian, I think you have the correct
intent, from what I've read of your commentary on this list, but I'm sick of
pointy clicky types whose only drive is to benefit themselves and, and don't
give a shit about the people who really deverve respect.
Peace (sometimes),
Vale
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> this may be a bit off topic but I thought that the plug people would be the
> best to ask.
>
> I would like to get a CNA, but I have almost no experience with novell.
> What is the cheapest way that I can pass the exam(s) and how do the tests
> work? What does it take to get certified? I have heard different things
> about the difficulty of the test. There is no way I can afford a thousand
> dollar course but I am willing to spend 200-300 dollars on materials(books,
> tapes, whatever). I really just want to know who has done this (gotten a
> CNA just by reading books).
>
> While on the topic, has anybody done the same thing with A+? MCSE? Could
> anybody point me to a place where I could find information on certification?
>
> Finally, what is everyone's opinion of Linux Certification? Has anyone
> actually taken the test?
>
> -Xtian Betz
>
>
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