Michael Leone on Sat, 8 Jun 2002 05:05:42 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] Re: Verizon DSL


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On 7 Jun 2002 at 10:19, Jon Galt wrote:

> On 7 Jun 2002 at 0:05, Jon Galt wrote:
> > > This may be a really dumb question, but do I actually need an ISP
> > > if I have a Verizon DSL line?  What does your ISP do for you? 
> > > Just email and such?
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Michael Leone wrote:
> > The ISP gets you access to the Internet. So yes, an ISP is an 
> > absolute necessity.
> 
> This is what I don't get.  What does this "access" consist of? 

As someone else pointed out - it's the routing between your DSL 
circuit, and the rest of the world. IOW, they are your gateway. If 
they didn't provide routing, your DSL signals would stop at the 
DSLAM, apparently, since they wouldn't know how to get anywhere else.

The way it was always explained to me - the line provider must 
guarantee that your line is active, that a signal can get from the 
DSLAM to your house (and vice versa). Responsibility for signals 
going beyond the DSLAM is the resposibility of the ISP. And they can 
be 2 different entities.

That may not be the most technically accurate description, but it 
seems to be true.

> Clearly there has to be more than simply a physical wire.  I
> understand that, but *what* do I get from the ISP?  Surely one could
> say "everything else besides the physical wire", but that wouldn't
> tell me what I want to know.

Well, you *can* get "everything else besides the physical wire" 
(meaning they would let you have access to their email servers; their 
web servers; etc. But it's not (totally) required. I run my own 
mail/web/ftp server at home. 



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