Jesse Schultz on Sat, 8 Jun 2002 05:33:24 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] Re: Verizon DSL


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On Friday 07 June 2002 10:19 am, you wrote:

> This is what I don't get.  What does this "access" consist of?  Clearly
> there has to be more than simply a physical wire.  I understand that, but
> *what* do I get from the ISP?  Surely one could say "everything else
> besides the physical wire", but that wouldn't tell me what I want to know.
>
> If one of my computers sends an IP packet out over my DSL line, the DSL
> line provider has to be able to handle the packet... or does it?  Does it
> act in some way like a leased line to my ISP?  Could I use an ISP in
> Alaska if I wanted to?  Or just ones that have some prearranged agreement
> with Verizon in this region?

You have to understand networking Layers. (OSI)
(this is a model, not a protocol)

Verizon is supplying:

Level 1 - The actual Physical/Electrical Protocols for running over the DSL
Line.  Ethernet boards and hubs live here.

Level 2 - Also called data link Etherrnet, PPPOE.  Approximately the mac
layer.  802.3 and all that good stuff.  Ethernet switches.

ISP starts here.

Level 3 - Networking Here is where the internet and Your ISP start.  IP lives
here.  Here is where you need an ISP and an IP assigned. Routers live here.

Level 4 Transport.  This is TCP. UDP, Etc

Levels 5, 6, 7 session, presentation and application.  Higher level stuff
lives here.  SMTP, http, ftp etc.

Main point - Verizon handles 1 and 2.  ISP and internet starts at 3.

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