gabriel rosenkoetter on Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:02:17 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] AMD or Intel P4??


First off, you're perhaps missing part of my point: more plentiful
does not necessarily mean better. (And, quite frequently, it means
worse. 10 million sheep are often wrong.)

On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:24:51AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> The news in the movie industry is that Linux on AMD or Intel is 
> replacing SGI.  I heard the same about UPenn.  The same combination is a 
> known replacement for Sun servers.

Have you any real references for those claims or are they just FUD?

When PC hardware can give me 200 MB/s (or thereabouts) off an FCAL
array, it's got a chance of replacing Suns. Trust me, it can't.
(Can't even get close, really, as there's simply no way to do
dynamic multi-pathing under Linux. Prove me wrong on that, I'd love
to see it.)

In any case, I get way more through the backplane on an E450 than
I get through anything with an Intel processor in it. PC hardware's
not even in the same league, and I don't think it wants to be. I'll
be glad to prove this to anyone interested, specify what you want to
see on the PC side. (Note that one doesn't have to do that on the
Sun side; there are only several things, and they're all fast.)

But we weren't talking about server class hardware anyway.

> Then theres OS X, which in my opinion, would be better if it
> wasn't tied only to Mac hardware.

Why's that a bad thing?

One of the comments that I either forgot to make or that you
neglected to respond to is that mac hardware stays in contented
use way longer (as in years) than the PC-du-jour. Yes, I'm being
lazy and bad by not providing a reference on that; maybe I'll dig
one up after I'm done catching up on cypherpunks.

-- 
gabriel rosenkoetter
gr@eclipsed.net

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