leroy on 9 Dec 2004 17:17:02 -0000 |
if you do end up getting the email address list, do me a favor an perform a perl -pi -e "s/leroy@leroybrown.com//" on the file first. thanks! stephen -- my name is not leroy On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, W. Chris Shank wrote: > Nice snippet. I see you didn't bother snipping the first of my response. > Good spinning. > > It's up to this fellow to decide if he wants to be a spammer or not. > It's not necessarily illegal and morality is an individual decision as > well. Difference between spammers and postal workers is that business > have to PAY to have each piece of junk delivered. There is no pay system > for email (yet). So the cost of delivery of spam is the burden of the > equipment owners. If sending snail mail was free your postal carrier > would make 10 trips to you house each day and he'd have to drive a > tractor trailer full of mail. And as for the "recycling" part of bulk > mail - as a resident with a postal address you implicitly agree to > dispose of your mail - wanted or unwanted. > > I disagree about condemnation. If you knew someone that worked for a > telemarketing company that took advantage of elderly for some > quasi-legal scam, would you condemn them? Would yourself work for this > company? But I guess that touches in a whole separate societal issue. > > On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 09:18 -0500, Paul wrote: > > > W. Chris Shank wrote: > > > > > Tell your employer to spend the money he'd pay you (plus a lot more) > > > on a mail marketing campaign. He'll get better results. > > > > > Uh, that might be easy for you to say since you are self-employed. We > > have at least one person here who is paid to work on anti-spam > > technology, and at least one person here involved in what most people > > agree is spam. Though I believe spam and even junk paper mail should be > > stopped at a *business* level, I don't think we should condemn an > > individual trying to make a living. > > > > Personally, I'd rather receive junk e-mail than junk paper mail. It > > must take much more energy and resources to create, distribute, and > > recycle paper mail. > > > > As my father likes to point out about recycling, businesses are giving > > tax deductions and reduced postage rates to distribute their garbage > > while the unwilling recipients must deal with the garbage. We are told > > it is our duty to protect the Earth by recycling. We don't get paid to > > do it, but that recycled material is worth money. So, everyone else is > > saving money or making money while we're bombarded by ads to convince us > > to spend more money while being required to clean up the mess! > > > > It is arguable that the Post Office, paper manufacturers, printers, > > advertises, etc., are all benefiting. But, when is the last time you > > told a Postal worker to give up their salary for the ideal of having > > less junk show up in your mail box? The problem must be corrected at > > the source. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > -- > W. Chris Shank > ACE Technology Group, LLC > www.acetechgroup.com > 866.229.1543 x10 > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
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