William H. Magill on 31 Dec 2004 19:51:44 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Tis the season for computer buying?


On 31 Dec, 2004, at 08:33, Jason Costomiris wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:12:32 -0500, Geoff Rivell <grivell@comcast.net> wrote:
I hate MacOSX's interface :) Pretty, yes. But too limitted for what I use
the computer for. Not a bad OS for grandparents though. Which is why I am
eyeing this desktop myself :-)

I'd be curious to know what these "limitations" are.. I've been using OS X for quite some time now, as well as Linux since the good ole days (how's 0.99pl15 grab you?), and I don't find OS X the least bit limiting.

Different? Certainly. Limiting? Not a chance.

The Mac OS X interface is no worse than either Gnome or KDE. Personally, I prefer MOTIF ... but then I also am also a KSH fan. :)

At the command line, OSX is nothing more than Unix. Granted, it's FreeBSD and not Linux. But for those of us who believe what Linus claims -- "Linux is not Unix" and who prefer BSD, it's fine, we're right at home.

If you want an X11 interface, simply launch Apple's X11 interface (it's standard with OS X) and run all your X-apps. The nice side benefit of Apple's integration of X11 is that you can cut and past between Aqua apps, and not only X11 apps.

If you really want Something else, simply wipe OSX and install FreeBSD or one of the PPC Linux distros.

I've recently acquired a pair of Alpha XP100s and have switched from SuSE and RH to FreeBSD -- the difference is incredible. Again from my point of view, files are where they belong, code works the way one expects Unix to behave and in general FreeBSD is a much better environment than any Linux distro I've played with.

The primary difference between OS X and FreeBSD, but in common with Tru64 Unix (aka Digital Unix, aka OSF/1) is that OSX is a Mach kernel and FreeBSD is not.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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