Eric at on 3 Sep 2012 14:17:19 -0700

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Re: [PLUG] Strange networking (or Verizon marketing) question.

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That's what I did a couple of years ago and it has worked perfectly.

They enabled the ONT (sp?) network interface and I ran that directly
to my Linux firewall/server.  The Actiontec box just grabs a dynamic
IP from the LAN side of the Linux box and handles dealing with the
set top box over the coax.

It did take the Verizon person about 25 minutes to actually enable
the ONT interface.  My Actiontec had died and they promised an
overnight replacement.  I told them "overnight hell!  I needed
Internet RFN!"

Allegedly I lose some specific bit of cable functionality but I
have never noticed anything missing. (Admittedly not a big TV


On 09/03/2012 04:15 PM, Carl Johnson wrote:
> the fios routers can be configured to act only as MoCA bridges to serve data to the settops. you have to run your own cat 5 to the ONT and have VZ provision for ethernet.
> Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC8000X
> Rich Freeman <> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM, John BORIS <> wrote:
>> Fios is a bit more complicated as the router they give you also handles some sort of tv function. I amabout to see about using a different wireless router at home as the one the provide doesn't have good signal strength in my house. Good for security but a PIA when i want to use my ipad in the back of the house.
> The router doesn't actually do any TV functions.  What it does do is act as a DHCP server, both to your ethernet and Wifi (ie your computers), AND to an ethernet-over-coax protocol that the set-top boxes use.  So, the router is just a router, but the set-top boxes use it, and if they can't get an IP connection then they lose guide data and on-demand.  The video itself is sent via a separate channel (QAM I assume - I know there is a bunch of encrypted QAM on the line and clear QAM for the locals).
> So, if you don't like the FIOS router it is a pain to avoid.  You can either live with double-NATing, or you can set it to bridged mode. However, if you bridge the router then it won't listen to anything but your own router, and since your own router probably doesn't speak the fancy ethernet-over-coax protocol (and likely isn't attached to the coax at all), then the set top boxes won't be happy.  You can also ditch their router entirely if you can convince Verizon to turn on the ethernet port on your ONT.  Again, the set top boxes won't be happy.
> If you don't care about the guide data or on-demand on the set top boxes, then you don't need to worry about any of that.  I just hook my set-top boxes up to MythTV anyway - so they don't do much but tune channels and waste electricity.
> Rich 
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