| Keith C. Perry on 16 Jun 2015 07:57:53 -0700 |
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| Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos |
That's one tool but a networking person, even if you're not using Linux routers and security devices, should be a comfort level with command and control with the CLI. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. Owner, DAO Technologies LLC (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 (M) +1.215.432.5167 www.daotechnologies.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Simpson" <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:50:07 AM Subject: Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos Keith, I just use this these days: https://guivbip.codeplex.com/ On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote: > I know its a more advanced topic but I wouldn't mind running a network "war > game". One of the things I used to do when I was teaching more advanced > networking courses was break the class up into groups and tell them to > interconnect themselves. Basically go through the similar the process of > building networks and peering. > > Then I tell them to try and gain intelligence (topology, running services, > etc) on the other networks including any compromises they could muster. > > Good times as you can imagine. > > Obviously various security methods were learned but the other thing that > came out was how hard it was to do a successful compromise when you know how > to trap and trace attacks. > > For new Linux users especially those interested in networking, a workshop > like this could help gain confidence in understanding what attacks look > like, how to rate them (i.e. prioritize for action) and why things aren't > nearly as easy to do as tv and film would have you believe. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. > Owner, DAO Technologies LLC > (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 > (M) +1.215.432.5167 > www.daotechnologies.com > > ________________________________ > From: "rachelneko" <rachelneko@gmail.com> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" > <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:13:18 AM > Subject: Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos > > I never got the impression that any PLUG folks were afraid of the command > line, but this would be a great topic for outreach, or for a lightning talk > night. Kinda like MJD's "What's in my ~/bin" with a bunch of us showing off > a few small tricks and pipelines. > > On Jun 16, 2015 8:11 AM, "Anthony Martin" <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Those are the type of topics we were considering teaching stuff that is >> actually relevant and useful in the workplace and also what life is like >> working with FLOSS. >> >> Anthony Martin >> >> Jr Linux System Administrator >> >> (M) 609-410-1168 >> anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Jonathan Simpson >> <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> wrote: >>> >>> To get ahead of things I'll pitch this today at CoreDial. >>> >>> I know internally there is probably some interest. Some topics I think >>> would be of interest... >>> >>> Linux from the CLI: to explore the basic CLI commands and beyond-basic >>> usage of them. I think a lot of folks used to GUI linux know what ls >>> and cp are for, but would possibly have an interest in more advanced >>> commands and piping them together. For me learning to string things >>> together was what took the CLI from a mundane chore when other things >>> were not working to a toolbox that made life easier. >>> >>> Setting up a LAMP server: This is kind of my goto to get someone >>> introduced to command line linux. It touches a lot of pieces and you >>> can finish with a usable product, and it's pretty easy to take that >>> usable product and continue to install a CMS on top of it to make it >>> even more approachable. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Anthony Martin >>> <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > One thing I was discussing with Keith was the possibility of having >>> > actual >>> > classes at North on days other than the normal meetings. Going over >>> > beginner >>> > topics and some advanced topics. Would anyone be interested in this? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, 7:40 AM Jonathan Simpson >>> > <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo topic, >>> >> although there is enough content to both to stand alone. >>> >> >>> >> I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest at the >>> >> next Ubuntu release this fall. >>> >> >>> >> I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it? >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Jonathan Simpson >>> >> <jsimpson@jdsnetwork.com> wrote: >>> >> > A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo topic, >>> >> > although >>> >> > there is enough content to both to stand alone. >>> >> > >>> >> > I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest at >>> >> > the >>> >> > next >>> >> > Ubuntu release this fall. >>> >> > >>> >> > I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it? >>> >> > >>> >> > On Jun 16, 2015 6:46 AM, "Rich Freeman" <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:00 AM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Second, last night we were talking about presentations for future >>> >> >> > meetings and some of the things that came up are: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > * Mini install-fests >>> >> >> > * Mini t-shooting clinics >>> >> >> > * Perhaps some "kid friendly" topics for the summer? >>> >> >> > * More beginner topics like: >>> >> >> > * bash >>> >> >> > * vim >>> >> >> > * Maybe some network architecture (Bill!?) thoughts >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Other folks, chime in. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> For North I'd love to see a talk on Ansible or zsh! :) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> If not I guess I can watch the video replays... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm probably not a great source for identifying questions new folks >>> >> >> would have, but I don't mind putting together a talk if some want >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> raise questions. Some low-to-intermediate-level questions that >>> >> >> might >>> >> >> come up are: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> * Tours of various desktop environments/etc. >>> >> >> * A comparison of various package managers/formats (I'd be >>> >> >> interested >>> >> >> in that one myself - I'm thinking capabilities/major design/etc - >>> >> >> what >>> >> >> can rpm do that deb can't, etc) >>> >> >> * How to build a kernel >>> >> >> * X11 concepts (or for that matter Wayland) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> Rich >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >> >> Announcements - >>> >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >> >> General Discussion -- >>> >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >> Announcements - >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >> General Discussion -- >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> > http://www.phillylinux.org >>> > Announcements - >>> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> > General Discussion -- >>> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> > >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> Announcements - >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> General Discussion -- >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> http://www.phillylinux.org >> Announcements - >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> General Discussion -- >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug