Dean Holdren on 5 Jun 2007 16:02:16 -0000


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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Hello; tips to avoid "newbie drownings in the Rails pool"...

  • From: "Dean Holdren" <deanholdren@gmail.com>
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yeah, like I said, I've done the whole hivelogic "build from source"
thing before on my older mac, I'm just trying to find out if there's
any reason *not* to use Locomotive on a new machine.

I guess it comes down to how much control I want over my system, and
how much I'm willing to give up to a prepackaged installation...

On 6/5/07, Justin W. Reagor <justinwr@gmail.com> wrote:

For me, Locomotive was great for introducing people to Rails and designers that will be developing views for your apps. I do not remember having to edit my bash config. Personally, I am not comfortable with many packaged solutions in any other aspects of development, as I like to have the nitty gritty scattered throughout my system and source code available in the usual places. But, then again, I come from a large *nix shell background...

Don't be scared of the command-line, embrace it! Your going to need to
embrace Rails/Ruby the same way...


:: Justin Reagor :: justinwr@gmail.com




On Jun 5, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Dean Holdren wrote:

I've just got a new mac, and I'm trying to determine the best way to
get Rails up and running as well, previously I followed hivelogic
article, thanks for pointing out the new one.

I also found this link: http://maconrails.com, which looks very
similar to the new hivelogic article, but points to a different
subversion package.

anyone tried out Locomotive? I'm not clear on how it works, but it
looks like you'd still need to modify your .bash_profile to use the
Locomotive installed ruby and gem commands on the command line


On 6/4/07, Justin W. Reagor <justinwr@gmail.com> wrote: I used this updated version of that Hivelogic article when my company got my new Intel Mac.

http://hivelogic.com/narrative/articles/ruby-rails-mongrel-mysql-osx

...of course thats until Leopard is released with Rails pre-installed
(correct?).

I can also confirm that the MySQL gem only worked on my old PPC Mac, and not
my newer Intel. I ended up not even needing it (only installing the SQLite
driver). My old Rails projects seemed to just fire up without the mysql gem
installing correctly (using Ruby DBI?).

I've had bad experiences with Macports/Darwinports and all of those (messy
compiles and crappy GUI utilities). I seem to just compile in what I need
and keep track of what I do install in the console. You may also want to
compile in Apache2 if you plan to mimic any type of production environment
(SSL testing with Mongrel/Rails). OS X still comes with Apache 1.3.33
installed...

Take care,

:: Justin Reagor
:: justinwr@gmail.com





On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Flinn Mueller wrote:

Ditto, the mysql gem has problems on mac, otherwise I used the macports
version of ruby rather than the one distributed with mac os.

For books, I really liked Beginning Ruby on Rails E-Commerce: From Novice to
Professional (
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10178 )

As someone coming from PHP development I had never been exposed to test
driven development, this books explains the virtues, and rather than
antidotally mentioning TDD, the authors chose to write the entire book using
TDD.  I know other rails books concentrate on the whiz-bang ajax features
and design patterns rails offers, but I think TDD is often overlooked in
recent books, but I imagine it's getting more press nowadays.

--flinn



On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Colin A. Bartlett wrote:


Jonathan Van Schoick wrote: For configuring Rails on a Mac, I'd definitely follow this guide:

http://hivelogic.com/narrative/articles/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger
That's exactly what I used.

C
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