Chris Bernard on 7 Dec 2007 22:45:17 -0000

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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Agile management web app?

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  • Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 17:44:58 -0500
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Dave, in my scenario, we do need a web app to help us manage software development projects.  We have developers and clients distributed across 3 time zones.  It is a luxury when we can meet face to face.

We've been doing XP using campfire, skype, vnc, VersionOne, and confluence.  Remote pairing has been surprisingly effective.

At any rate, the thrust of my question is that I think we can do better than VersionOne and I'd like so try to simplify (always!).  The hosted version of VersionOne is annoyingly sluggish, it's expensive, and as it turns out, the feature set is quite overkill.

Basecamp feels great; I want to like it, but it's too small.  We need the Story/Task metaphor and Bug tracking.  I think if we were all in the same room we could possibly eliminate Tasks, but being remote, technical Tasks have proven to be invaluable communication mechanisms between devs. 

I've had good luck with XPlanner in the past, but I'd like something that supports the notions of Releases,  Release Stories, and Bugs.  

I'll go back and re-read other's app suggestions, but perhaps I'll just have to pay for Mingle.


On Dec 6, 2007 12:33 PM, David Bogus <> wrote:
> I think a common pain is when the members of the software development
> team are not in the same room.

I'm of the opinion that this is a very significant pain, that has a
large cost in productivity. In general I try and avoid having teams
that are distributed.  In many cases having even every developer in
the same room, or building isn't possible.

In this case the root problem is how do you communicate to the others.
I've found that management applications don't tend to help me
communicate. Rather they do not provide a good value for effort when
used as a communication tool.

I find that when working with others in a distributed fashion, that
you get a huge return investing small amount of time in being in the
same room.  So often I try to arrange it so that  face time happens
regularly between developers.

Dave's Definitions: Morning, is after I've slept for more than four
hours. Lunch is the second meal of the day no matter the hour of
consumption. A long drive is one longer then you have last slept.
Ineffable, if you don't understand I couldn't possibly explain it.
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