Evan Weaver on 7 Dec 2007 23:34:26 -0000

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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Agile management web app?

  • From: "Evan Weaver" <evan@cloudbur.st>
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  • Subject: Re: [PhillyOnRails] Agile management web app?
  • Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:34:13 -0500
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EdgeCase (I think) is releasing Project Jacket
(http://projectjacket.com) in January, I'm told.

I'm also told that Mingle is (putting it gently) greatly overpriced
considering its functionality. With that hearsay in mind it might be
worth waiting a little bit.

I think in my case I am going to wait, and depending on Project
Jacket, either use that, or cook up something in DabbleDB.


On Dec 7, 2007 5:44 PM, Chris Bernard <cebernard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave, in my scenario, we do need a web app to help us manage software
> development projects.  We have developers and clients distributed across 3
> time zones.  It is a luxury when we can meet face to face.
> We've been doing XP using campfire, skype, vnc, VersionOne, and confluence.
> Remote pairing has been surprisingly effective.
> At any rate, the thrust of my question is that I think we can do better than
> VersionOne and I'd like so try to simplify (always!).  The hosted version of
> VersionOne is annoyingly sluggish, it's expensive, and as it turns out, the
> feature set is quite overkill.
> Basecamp feels great; I want to like it, but it's too small.  We need the
> Story/Task metaphor and Bug tracking.  I think if we were all in the same
> room we could possibly eliminate Tasks, but being remote, technical Tasks
> have proven to be invaluable communication mechanisms between devs.
> I've had good luck with XPlanner in the past, but I'd like something that
> supports the notions of Releases,  Release Stories, and Bugs.
> I'll go back and re-read other's app suggestions, but perhaps I'll just have
> to pay for Mingle.
>  Chris
> On Dec 6, 2007 12:33 PM, David Bogus <davidbogus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think a common pain is when the members of the software development
> > > team are not in the same room.
> >
> > I'm of the opinion that this is a very significant pain, that has a
> > large cost in productivity. In general I try and avoid having teams
> > that are distributed.  In many cases having even every developer in
> > the same room, or building isn't possible.
> >
> > In this case the root problem is how do you communicate to the others.
> > I've found that management applications don't tend to help me
> > communicate. Rather they do not provide a good value for effort when
> > used as a communication tool.
> >
> > I find that when working with others in a distributed fashion, that
> > you get a huge return investing small amount of time in being in the
> > same room.  So often I try to arrange it so that  face time happens
> > regularly between developers.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave's Definitions: Morning, is after I've slept for more than four
> > hours. Lunch is the second meal of the day no matter the hour of
> > consumption. A long drive is one longer then you have last slept.
> > Ineffable, if you don't understand I couldn't possibly explain it.
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