Michael Leone on Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:56:00 -0500


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Re: [PLUG] linux sw install


On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 14:19, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> > Right. But they can install software. And not all software needs to be
> > installed as Administrator. And most things I install on my Linux
> > systems wants me to install as root. Not run, just install. Same thing,
> > isn't it?
> 
> No. Actually any decent linux installer will let you install as a user. I
> make a ~/bin dir for that purpose and put my path there. This has been
> basic to unix for decades. The unix community can't be responsible, for
> people who broke that model any more than the windows community can be
> responsible for those who write bad drivers or have terrible uis.

Not my point. I know Unix users can install software. I meant that Win2K
users can, too (without being Administrator).

> 
> > Ditto for most stuff in Linux. I can't start up many services as a
> > regular user.
> 
> All/some fallacy. There are actually some that you can start as a regular
> user, heck more and more services are trying to run as regular users, but
> not all can be started as regular users, and I don't know why the tone
> above seems to suggest that this is a flaw in linux (or unix). Linux has
> many flaws, but this is not one of them.

Most you can not.

> I suggest that a simple book on unix philosophy is read and thought about
> for a week, while one works on the console for that week and forget all
> about the MS mentality, 

Most of us admins can't do that, since we must use and support it.

> then we can all come back and talk about the real
> problems that linux has and how we can all make it better.


> 
> Fred
> 
> 
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