Stephen Gran on Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:20:14 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] debian testing gnome-session (gnome 2.0?)


On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 09:15:55PM -0400, Jeff Abrahamson said:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 02:50:52PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote:
> 
> > sorts things out.  That being said, I am not that happy with GNOME
> > 2.x for a variety of reasons, and I have been poking around trying a
> > variety of Window Managers/Session Managers to try and replace the
> > functionality that I had in GNOME 1.4.
> 
> What do you miss? I've heard complaints like this, but no specifics.

GNOME 1.4 had a lot more applets that were usable with it - some of them
were quite silly, but others I used a lot.  The control-center for GNOME
2.2 is basically useless, as it doesn't allow configuration of things
like which window manager to use, which file manager to use, so on.  It
does fine or simple things like changing the theme and wallpaper, but
that's not really the sort of thing I care that much about - I'm more
interested in seeing how different components play together.  The new
config file format is based on gconf, which looks and feels too much
like the Windows registry to make me happy with it, and the method for
updating and changing things in it is through a gui that looks
remarkably like Windows regedit, rather than a quick edit of a file.
That, combined with the fact that it uses Nautilus (see below) as it's
default file manager (and really doesn't work that well with gmc or
others) makes it really pretty slow recently.  That being said, the new
Nautilus is still faster than the one that could be used with GNOME 1.4.

> Incidentally, I was talking to Keith Packard (long-time X developer) a
> couple weeks ago, who had recently written this nifty tool for
> analyzing X packets. He said he'd used it to figure out why mozilla
> and nautilus were so slow at points. He'd forwarded the info to the
> respective development groups, and said the appropriate changes looked
> to be in cvs as of rather recently. I wonder if this will finally make
> these tools (especially nautilus) really snappy.

That would be outstanding - my fast box might actually feel fast in
GNOME again!

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