Re: [PLUG] OT? Costs of set-up and ownership, dedicated server

[Lee Marzke <lee@marzke.net>]

Mitch,

I've just offloaded a half dozen of hosted email domains from my servers 
to an IMAP
aggregate provider, as the prices are getting really attractive and I 
could no longer
justify the admin costs.

While setting up the basic web/postfix/dns/ftp server is easy,  
spamassassin is somewhat
more difficult to install in the basic configuration.   However if you 
want easily handle
multiple domains,  use individual spam assassin rules per domain/user,  
and do virus
filtering  this is not easily done without a lot of administration,  
much easier to use an
out-sourcer.

If HIPPA doesn't interfere,  outsourcing can be pretty inexpensive,  you 
get business
quality IMAP email,  and you can always mirror some or all of the 
messages to a
local server for backup or availability reasons.   Since Internet messages
are already sent un-encrypted,  having the messages password protected 
on a remote
server is not all that more insecure.

You can contact me off list as well for IMAP hosting costs, including 
spam assassin
and Sophos  and ClamAV virus filtering,  as my business is now reselling 
these services.

Lee Marzke          <lmarzke@4aero.com>



John Von Essen wrote:
> Well the server cost is easy, just go to hp.com or dell.com, etc.,. and
> price out a server. If your company already has a network in place, then
> thats taken care off, just get a good UPS ($1000), and stick your server
> on it. Or if your company has a small internal server room, stick the
> server there.
>
> As for 1 employee.... You can get a linux sysadmin for anywhere between
> $35,000/yr all the way up to $120,000/yr. The salary dictates the level of
> competency. $35,000 gets you an idiot with no experience, $120,000 gets
> you an expert. But an expert would probably not want to work for you with
> 1 server. Your best bet is to outsource the admin to a third party who
> would just bill you for time. So if you only need 14 hours of work in a
> month from your admin, 14 hours @ $35/hr = $490, then thats alot a cheaper
> then hiring someone. A basic web/mail/dns/ftp/db server when setup
> correctly, is very easy to maintain.
>
> If you go the outsourced route, you can contact me off-list, my company
> provides these kinds of services (www.essenz.com).
>
> Also, if the servers capacity is purely low bandwidth (i.e. not a
> local-net fileserver), you can probably outsource the server too. Just a
> get a dedicated server from a local ISP/Colo/Network company, and have
> your contract admin maintain that dedicated server. A good dedicated
> server will run $200-$300 a month, but there is no equipment to purchase.
> Or you can buy your own server ($4000), and just colocate it ($100-$150
> per month). Dedicated servers tend to be newer low-end machines, or they
> are older high-end.
>
> -John Von Essen
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 mmalten@comcast.net wrote:
>
>   
> > This is probably OT, but I'm a Linuxer at home, and this question has to do with a business application:
> >
> > Where I work, we're interested in setting up a high-availability server for our department.  This would handle web, email, and information for research or patient care.  We'd also need to hire a full-time person to maintain this for us.
> >
> > What I need are estimates on cost of hardware, bandwidth, and the salary expectations of the dedicated IT person.
> >
> > Anyone got figures to share?
> >
> > As ever, thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mitch
> >
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