John Von Essen on 26 Aug 2010 10:20:22 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Google chat/video

I know this is OT, but how is this behavior from Google not illegal. AKA Sherman Anti-trust Act of 1890. Standard Oil. And so on...
Standard oil dropped prices so low, that they forced their competitors to go bankrupt - allowing to take over the market.
If Google offers free phone calling to US landline, they could easily wipe out alot of phone companies. Google is getting so big and powerful, they could take over numerous markets.
Shit, if Google decided to get in the Wireless business and become their own cell carrier, they could bankrupt other carriers within a year. Google already has a nationwide network of backhaul fiber, all they need to do is start lighting cell towers.
I like free stuff, but 100's of companies whose business it is to provide local calling will suffer. Whenever you just wildly offer stuff for free, in my mind, its a clear indication of trying to wipe out your competitors. 

-John

On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Edmond Rodriguez wrote:


Free landline calls to US and Canada from Gmail

http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
Probably old news? I don't know, but thought it would go well with the below. 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Edmond Rodriguez
<erodrig97.list@gmail.com> wrote:

I probably should have mentioned my correspondence below is the chat
that is available in the browser when running gmail.

http://www.google.com/chat/video

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=100173

I have tried playing with XMPP with Pidgin via Google , and it was
very trying, though also a learning process for me.  Never had
complete success (been a while since I tried it).
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:17 AM, parametric <robotslovejokes@gmail.com > wrote:
Completely new to linux guy here. But I was using the Empathy client to 
video chat through google last month on my ubuntu distro and had
problems "dialing out" where I could only connect to my BF when he
dialed in. I have no idea why and have added it to the long list of
things-to-figure-out-eventually.

Brian.


On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 01:14 +0000, Edmond Rodriguez wrote:
Perhaps old news, but Google Chat/Video seems to work on Linux (.deb plugin install file) now as well (see below correspondence). Set up 
worked fine for me and I could see the web cam image the options
setting, though I did not try chatting with anyone.

I have been involved in helping to support a web cam (gspca module)
for Linux releases, so I learned a bit. In my case, I had to do the 
following, but maybe not true for all cameras.
ubuntu@ubuntu:/tmp$ export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/ v4l2convert.so ubuntu@ubuntu:/tmp$ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib:/usr/ lib" 
   (this may not be needed depending on where things are)
Then start firefox from the terminal so the above takes effect (or set 
it up some other automatic way).

Edmond


From: Casey Bralla <MailList@NerdWorld.org>
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List <plug@lists.phillylinux.org > 
Sent: Sat, December 27, 2008 7:15:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] SIP SoftPhone Recommendations
I just checked it out and got a message that it was not yet available for 
Linux.  :(


On Saturday 27 December 2008 2:09:36 pm Jason Harlow wrote:
I haven't tried it yet, personally, but Gmail now has video and voice 
chat that supposedly works on both windows and linux in firefox.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Casey Bralla <MailList@nerdworld.org > 
wrote:
I want to start using a software-based video phone to call my family and friends (who use a mix of Linux and windows) and am looking for a 
software recommendation.
So far I've tried Ekiga (looks good in Linux, but the Windows client bombed on me) and Skype (works great in Windows, but buggy in Linux). 


Anybody have a recommendation?

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