Re: [PLUG] Google chat/video

[Art Alexion <art.alexion@gmail.com>]

No viable land line carrier depends on residential phone service these days. They have expanded into many other products. They discourage all but the everything included plans. It costs them more to track and bill calls than they make from them. 

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Art Alexion

On Aug 26, 2010 1:20 PM, "John Von Essen" <john@essenz.com> wrote:
> I know this is OT, but how is this behavior from Google not illegal.
> AKA Sherman Anti-trust Act of 1890. Standard Oil. And so on...
>
> Standard oil dropped prices so low, that they forced their competitors
> to go bankrupt - allowing to take over the market.
>
> If Google offers free phone calling to US landline, they could easily
> wipe out alot of phone companies. Google is getting so big and
> powerful, they could take over numerous markets.
>
> Shit, if Google decided to get in the Wireless business and become
> their own cell carrier, they could bankrupt other carriers within a
> year. Google already has a nationwide network of backhaul fiber, all
> they need to do is start lighting cell towers.
>
> I like free stuff, but 100's of companies whose business it is to
> provide local calling will suffer. Whenever you just wildly offer
> stuff for free, in my mind, its a clear indication of trying to wipe
> out your competitors.
>
> -John
>
> On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Edmond Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> Free landline calls to US and Canada from Gmail
>>
>> http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
>>
>> Probably old news? I don't know, but thought it would go well with
>> the below.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Edmond Rodriguez
>> <erodrig97.list@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I probably should have mentioned my correspondence below is the chat
>>> that is available in the browser when running gmail.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/chat/video
>>>
>>> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=100173
>>>
>>> I have tried playing with XMPP with Pidgin via Google , and it was
>>> very trying, though also a learning process for me. Never had
>>> complete success (been a while since I tried it).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:17 AM, parametric <robotslovejokes@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Completely new to linux guy here. But I was using the Empathy
>>>> client to
>>>> video chat through google last month on my ubuntu distro and had
>>>> problems "dialing out" where I could only connect to my BF when he
>>>> dialed in. I have no idea why and have added it to the long list of
>>>> things-to-figure-out-eventually.
>>>>
>>>> Brian.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 01:14 +0000, Edmond Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps old news, but Google Chat/Video seems to work on Linux
>>>>> (.deb
>>>>> plugin install file) now as well (see below correspondence).
>>>>> Set up
>>>>> worked fine for me and I could see the web cam image the options
>>>>> setting, though I did not try chatting with anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been involved in helping to support a web cam (gspca module)
>>>>> for Linux releases, so I learned a bit. In my case, I had to
>>>>> do the
>>>>> following, but maybe not true for all cameras.
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu@ubuntu:/tmp$ export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/
>>>>> v4l2convert.so
>>>>> ubuntu@ubuntu:/tmp$ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib:/usr/
>>>>> lib"
>>>>> (this may not be needed depending on where things are)
>>>>>
>>>>> Then start firefox from the terminal so the above takes effect
>>>>> (or set
>>>>> it up some other automatic way).
>>>>>
>>>>> Edmond
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Casey Bralla <MailList@NerdWorld.org>
>>>>>> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List <plug@lists.phillylinux.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Sent: Sat, December 27, 2008 7:15:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] SIP SoftPhone Recommendations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just checked it out and got a message that it was not yet
>>>>>> available for
>>>>>> Linux. :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday 27 December 2008 2:09:36 pm Jason Harlow wrote:
>>>>>>> I haven't tried it yet, personally, but Gmail now has video and
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> chat that supposedly works on both windows and linux in firefox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Casey Bralla <MailList@nerdworld.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I want to start using a software-based video phone to call my
>>>>>>>> family and
>>>>>>>> friends (who use a mix of Linux and windows) and am looking
>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>> software recommendation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I've tried Ekiga (looks good in Linux, but the Windows
>>>>>>>> client
>>>>>>>> bombed on me) and Skype (works great in Windows, but buggy in
>>>>>>>> Linux).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody have a recommendation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Casey Bralla
>>>>>>>> Chief Nerd in Residence
>>>>>>>> The NerdWorld Organisation
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