Keith C. Perry on 31 Aug 2015 09:01:49 -0700

[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Re: [PLUG] How to Design a Great Web Site

Another +1 AGAINST Wordpress...

First, I'm majorly biased against the product.  I've never liked the way it was arranged- Joomla is a much better product and Drupal, even though it has a steeper learning curve, is probably if the most flexible CMS all around.  After some recent Wordpress consults I've really come to despise it.

Second, when I have my web apps / site hat on, I have my own LAmP (Linux-Apache-mod_perl-PostgreSQL) standard.  If I'm writing the code, I'm writing the code- not just assembling a bunch of stuff in CMS.  I sub that stuff out now since there are people better suited than I that enjoy doing the basic web site projects.  A sidebar to this is that Wordpress was designed for blogging and 90% of the requests I've gotten for were NOT for blogging.  In other words, most of the time people need Joomla or Drupal but they want Wordpress because its the buzzword that everyone knows.  It can play CMS but a butter knife can also be a flat head screwdriver-  its NOT the best tool for the CMS job.  Its hard to get people to understand that so I don't bother anymore.

Third, awhile back the writers of PHP said that Wordpress was doing things that were simply "not right" and generally "wrong" from their point of view in terms of how Wordpress was implemented on their framework.  That's pretty damning.

I'm sure its gotten better but thankfully I haven't been asked by any of my designers for any major Wordpress deployments.  I'm not sure I would let a production site go live on my shared platform- VM or maybe LXC to help isolate it.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
(O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
(M) +1.215.432.5167

From: "brent timothy saner" <>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:24:30 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] How to Design a Great Web Site

Hash: SHA512

On 08/30/2015 06:26 PM, jeff wrote:
On 08/30/2015 05:01 AM, PaulNM wrote:
I agree. Wordpress is not insecure. That reputation is mostly from their
 early days

 I do not use Wordpress, however I keep my eyes on vulnerabilities and WP
 is mentioned all the time. If I were to need a platform, I'd certainly
 check out the others first.
 Ymmv, of course.

I'm going to have to +1 Jeff on this. While WordPress security has
gotten *better*, it still suffers from quite frequent security issues.

And it's not necessarily because of how ubiquitous it is. Drupal does
not suffer from a fraction of the issues WP does, yet it's even used by
the White House (along with countless other larger businesses, etc.)-
WordPress simply isn't up to snuff. Remember, quality does not
necessarily equal popularity- typically, shiny-clicky equals popularity
(i.e. Mac OS X, which has had a horrible security track record).

In fact, I've seen an astounding amount of WordPress compromises happen
firsthand when I worked at a webhost. I mean to the tune of 3-4 serious
breaches a day across our customerbase.

If you *really* want to use WordPress, fine, have at it. But it's
definitely not my personal first choice.

Aside from that, designing a clean-feeling website is fairly easy using
Twitter's opensource bootstrap.js:
It has built-in responsiveness support, and creates a pretty
slick-feeling website without needing to be a PHP/CSS/JS/etc. guru.

Version: GnuPG v2
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird -

Philadelphia Linux Users Group         --
Announcements -
General Discussion  --
Philadelphia Linux Users Group         --
Announcements -
General Discussion  --