Re: [PLUG] Replacement mailing list idea

[Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com>]

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 07:10:03 -0400
Rich Freeman <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Steve Litt
> <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:12:41 -0400
> > JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 09/15/2016 12:34 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:  
> >> > Two points.
> >> >
> >> > First, Mailman 2 already integrates with Usenet.  Mailman 3
> >> > integrates with a web-based forum.
> >> >
> >> > Second, mailing lists are, at this point, so vastly superior to
> >> > *any* web-based discussion system, that I can't imagine why
> >> > anyone would even consider the latter.  Yeah, that may change --
> >> > and Mailman 3 is part of experiments in that direction -- but the
> >> > feature gap right now is enormous.
> >> >
> >> > Mailing lists (and Usenet) have a number of significant
> >> > advantages over everything else:  
> >>
> >> <giant snip>
> >>
> >> Haven't thought about this much, have you?  ;-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, I like the push and UI arguments the most, but that's
> >> all great stuff and I agree 100%.
> >>  
> >
> > Me too. I was going to add that Rich's 9 points should be documented
> > somewhere and pointed to every time the discussion comes up.
> >  
> 
> Sure, but did anybody propose moving to a web-based forum in the
> first place?

Somebody suggested Discourse. Discourse is a browser based, Internet
hosted RAILS program, from what I can gather from
https://www.discourse.org/faq/.

> 
> I suggested looking at Discourse since my understanding is that it is
> not limited to being a web-based forum.  As Rich pointed out, Mailman3
> apparently also has a somewhat similar feature set.  Does that mean
> that we shouldn't consider using Mailman 3?
> 

>From a brief look at https://www.discourse.org/faq/, Discourse looks
like a solution to a nonexistent problem. If people thread and reply in
a sane manner, it's not needed. If they thread and reply sloppily or
ambiguously, I have a feeling, based on https://www.discourse.org/faq/,
that Discourse will just make it worse.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
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