Re: [PLUG] groan

[Michel van der List <plug@vanderlist.com>]

Just out of curiosity.

The original posting was about ability to monitor people using consumer grade
electronics. And I think that discussions about concern around the government
and companies' ability to use our private data was tolerated. Chris addressed
a specific issue within that discussion (though _perhaps_ it was veering into
political territory).

I'm all for keeping religion and politics off the list. But where is the line
and how do we decide?

It's meant as a serious question.


On 05/25/2018 10:00 AM, Rich Mingin (PLUG) wrote:
> As this has now veered religious, I respectfully request it be 
> continued off-list.
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 09:57 Chris Norton <chris@nortoninc.info 
> <mailto:chris@nortoninc.info>> wrote:
>
>     What indicates that Veterans are enemies of the US?
>     On May 25, 2018, 09:43 -0400, LeRoy Cressy
>     <rev.cressy@protonmail.com <mailto:rev.cressy@protonmail.com>>, wrote:
> >     Know your enemy.
> >
> >     I know that the enemy of the American people is their own
> >     government. Their own government spies on them and considers
> >     veterans to be enemies of the state. Since I am a veteran, I am
> >     considered an enemy of the state thus I consider the NSA, FBI,
> >     CIA, EPA, CDC, and etc to be my enemy.
> >
> >     One of the three temptations that Jesus was tempted with was the
> >     possession of all of the nations of the world. Satan controls and
> >     own all of the nations of the world. Consider the wars that the
> >     US is involved in.
> >
> >     Your member of Congress uses all of the tool of Satan to be
> >     elected. They lie and deceive to get elected while considering
> >     you too stupid to realize what they are doing.
> >
> >     I consider the government as the enemy.
> >
> >
> >     ​Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy
> >
> >      mailto:rev.cressy@prontonmail.com
> >     <mailto:rev.cressy@prontonmail.com> /\_/\
> >
> >      mailto:rev.cressy@gmail.com <mailto:rev.cressy@gmail.com> ( o.o )
> >
> >                                           > ^ <
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >     Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
> >     man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)
> >
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> >     ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >
> >     On May 25, 2018 9:31 AM, Michel van der List <plug@vanderlist.com
> >     <mailto:plug@vanderlist.com>> wrote:
> >
> > >     Ironically, LeRoy seems perfectly fine using Facebook, Google
> > >     plus and
> > >
> > >     twitter. The governmentcan quite easily just go to them for all the
> > >
> > >     information they need.
> > >
> > >     And even if they won't or can't due to US laws, what makes you
> > >     think other
> > >
> > >     countries would not be able to get their hands on the data and
> > >     make a
> > >
> > >     deal with the US government to get the data anyway.
> > >
> > >     In my mind it's not some much as what they can gather, but more
> > >     about
> > >
> > >     what they can do with the data. And sadly, they can do a lot
> > >     because of,
> > >
> > >     you know, terrorists and the children.
> > >
> > >     On 05/25/2018 09:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > >
> > > >     On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:56 AM LeRoy Cressy
> > > >     rev.cressy@protonmail.com <mailto:rev.cressy@protonmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >     wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >     The NSA has a huge computer in Utah storing everything you
> > > > >     Say, Do, and
> > > > >
> > > > >     Go. They know where you are at at all times, what you are
> > > > >     doing, and etc.
> > > >
> > > >     If your threat model is the NSA you might as well give up now
> > > >     unless you're
> > > >
> > > >     willing to put a LOT of effort into evading them.
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