Re: [PLUG] groan

Well, for me it was when we started conflating the US with Satan and talking about the temptations of Christ. I can go without.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:10 Michel van der List <plug@vanderlist.com> wrote:

Just out of curiosity.

The original posting was about ability to monitor people using consumer grade
electronics. And I think that discussions about concern around the government
and companies' ability to use our private data was tolerated. Chris addressed
a specific issue within that discussion (though _perhaps_ it was veering into
political territory).

I'm all for keeping religion and politics off the list. But where is the line
and how do we decide?

It's meant as a serious question.

On 05/25/2018 10:00 AM, Rich Mingin (PLUG) wrote:
> As this has now veered religious, I respectfully request it be
> continued off-list.
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 09:57 Chris Norton <chris@nortoninc.info
> <mailto:chris@nortoninc.info>> wrote:
>
> What indicates that Veterans are enemies of the US?
> On May 25, 2018, 09:43 -0400, LeRoy Cressy
> <rev.cressy@protonmail.com <mailto:rev.cressy@protonmail.com>>, wrote:
>> Know your enemy.
>>
>> I know that the enemy of the American people is their own
>> government. Their own government spies on them and considers
>> veterans to be enemies of the state. Since I am a veteran, I am
>> considered an enemy of the state thus I consider the NSA, FBI,
>> CIA, EPA, CDC, and etc to be my enemy.
>>
>> One of the three temptations that Jesus was tempted with was the
>> possession of all of the nations of the world. Satan controls and
>> own all of the nations of the world. Consider the wars that the
>> US is involved in.
>>
>> Your member of Congress uses all of the tool of Satan to be
>> elected. They lie and deceive to get elected while considering
>> you too stupid to realize what they are doing.
>>
>> I consider the government as the enemy.
>>
>>
>> Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy
>>
>>   mailto:rev.cressy@prontonmail.com
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
>> man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)
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>> On May 25, 2018 9:31 AM, Michel van der List <plug@vanderlist.com
>> <mailto:plug@vanderlist.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ironically, LeRoy seems perfectly fine using Facebook, Google
>>> plus and
>>>
>>> twitter. The governmentcan quite easily just go to them for all the
>>>
>>> information they need.
>>>
>>> And even if they won't or can't due to US laws, what makes you
>>> think other
>>>
>>> countries would not be able to get their hands on the data and
>>> make a
>>>
>>> deal with the US government to get the data anyway.
>>>
>>> In my mind it's not some much as what they can gather, but more
>>> about
>>>
>>> what they can do with the data. And sadly, they can do a lot
>>> because of,
>>>
>>> you know, terrorists and the children.
>>>
>>> On 05/25/2018 09:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:56 AM LeRoy Cressy
>>>> rev.cressy@protonmail.com <mailto:rev.cressy@protonmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The NSA has a huge computer in Utah storing everything you
>>>>> Say, Do, and
>>>>>
>>>>> Go. They know where you are at at all times, what you are
>>>>> doing, and etc.
>>>>
>>>> If your threat model is the NSA you might as well give up now
>>>> unless you're
>>>>
>>>> willing to put a LOT of effort into evading them.
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