Christopher Barry on 17 Sep 2016 19:16:35 -0700

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Re: [PLUG] Top-posting (was: Replacement mailing list idea)

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:13:02 -0400
Steve Litt <> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:45:51 -0400
>Rich Freeman <> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Litt
>> <> wrote:  
>> > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:23:58 -0400
>> > Rich Freeman <> wrote:
>> >    
>> >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Steve Litt
>> >> <> wrote:    
>> >> >
>> >> > I use a gmail address for a couple of my mailing list
>> >> > subscriptions, and I'm perfectly able to bottom post, via my
>> >> > Claws-Mail email client.    
>> >>
>> >> Sure, I was referring to using GMail as an MUA, not an MTA.
>> >> Obviously if it is just the MTA it shouldn't be messing with the
>> >> content of the email or things like the References header.  I
>> >> imagine that MS Exchange would probably work just as well in that
>> >> regard.    
>> >
>> > So use a real MUA, not one provided by Google.
>> >    
>> Alas, I've yet to find a decent one that works in a browser.
>> Roundcube and Squirrelmail are the best I've found, and their
>> keyboard shortcuts are terrible.  
>So don't use webmail. Use a real MUA. OF COUSE webmail's cumbersome and
>has inconvenient hotkeys. That's what webmail is.
>Seriously, install Claws-Mail, or Thunderbird, or Mutt, or whatever,
>and life will be easier.
>Steve Litt 
>September 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting

All webmail clients suck. Some may suck less than others, but in the
end, they all still suck.

I wholeheartedly second trying claws-mail. I've been using it for many
years now. I used Evo for years before that, and still miss some of it's
features (virtual folders), but it simply got too unstable to be
usable. It got to the point it was crashing 5 or more times a day. Maybe
it's fine now, no idea.

I found claws, and have not looked back since. It's highly
configurable, has a plugin architecture, does everything you'd expect
plus more, and it's absolutely rock solid. I very highly recommend it.

One cool thing about claws, besides bottom posting by default, is you
can double-click in previous replies in the message and it will
collapse (or expand if collapsed) that entire message part inline. Like
code block collapsing in an IDE.

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